An oath on British Values?

Forgive me if this has been discussed already but I thought Vince Cable's latest thoughts were interesting:

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/01/why-its-time-end-eu-free-movement

Because it won't be English after we leave?
To show he's in charge?
If he was negotiating with diplomats it wouldn't matter because they are all fluent in French anyway.

Daphne, she didn't ned to do it for the NQT that she did first. She was made to take GCSE maths for that because they could not work out whether her Ebac equivalent qualification meant that her maths was good enough to teach primary schoolchildren!
So she took it anyway, just so she was up-to-date.
She's a very well qualified TA.

Disregard that last remark!!

She's quite 'mature' and had worked as a nurse for years before she came to the UK, so maybe that counted in her favour.
Probably Daphnedill as the young lady I speak of is in her early twenties (24?). And perhaps the NHS Trust she wanted to work for insisted on the English exam.

The EU's common language is English
so why does the EU's Brexit negotiator demand that all negotiations are conducted in French?

Wally.

As far as overseas students go expect see more, most unis are actively recruiting students quite often from rich middle and far eastern countries. These pay huge fees, occupy student accommodation and are the reason universities continue to exist.
mair the idea that immigrants are responsible for all the ills in this country is the best piece of propaganda the right wing have ever managed. The reason for the working class housing problems in London is nothing to do with immigration, it is a concerted effort to make the London property market as lucrative as possible. If you want to stop immigration let's start with the Russian and Arab millionaires who own heaps of property in London, not to live in but purely for profit. Let's confiscate unoccupied housing and turn it into social housing.
And yes I am entirely in favour of unlimited EU migration, because I have the sense to realise it is a two way procedure and people move in both directions, which benefits everyone.

ww,

Is your DD with William the Conqueror? Isn't the message a bit late? You just can't rely on the postal services these days! (sigh)

A common language? The EU's common language is English. There's some discussion about which language will be adopted once the UK leaves. Malta and/or the Republic of Ireland might adopt English as their official language.

Methinks anybody who thinks that the EU wants to adopt a common language for everybody living in the EU is living in some kind of fantasy world.

@dj

I agree with you. If she did a degree in the UK, I really am surprised that she had to prove she was IELTS7 proficient. She would have had to prove that to get on to the degree course, if it was after a certain year (can't remember exactly when). It could be that the school's administrators have got it wrong - which wouldn't be the first time.

The GCSE is for everybody, because it's possible to get on to a degree course without maths, English and science GCSE.

I'm not so clear about the requirements for TAs as I am for teachers. The minimum requirements for teachers are a statutory requirement, but I always thought (apart from the GCSEs) was up to the headteacher or local authority (if it's an authority school).

Hmmmm....

One 15 year old boy in a town near where I live decided to create a hostile environment....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38171588

Just had a phone call from DD to rescue them in Pevensey a good hour away, car broken down so enjoy your evening folks!!

What this discussion is about....those who hate any talk about limiting immigrant numbers to the UK, and those of us who think that unlimited immigration is not a good thing.That's all there is to it.
So, all this about returning to the 30's ( yes, we know where that is going!) should cease, and posters should remember that it's not a matter of right or wrong, good or evil, but coming at a subject from different sides.
People did vote for Brexit for different reasons, but having our own controls over everything, including immigration makes sense to many.

Give me an example ana

Err.. I have said what I think! Funnily enough just because a group of people all disagree with one poster does not mean they all have the same opinion on the situation!

TBH whitewave, I think you are too!

It's hardly 'extremist propaganda' to not want unlimited immigration into the UK.Most people if not all, accept that immigration is needed, but that doesn't mean that just anyone can stroll in here in an unlimited way ( except it does from 27 EU countries)
To keep banging on about xenophobia/ racism/extremism is plainly ridiculous.Why not have the number of immigrants working and living here that you actually want and need and not just numbers that continually go up and up and up?

You are treading very close to the line * mair*

By voting for the UK to remain in the EU I accepted the 4 principles , that is so bleeding obvious it doesn't need discussing - a child could have worked that out.

So you do support uncontrolled EU immigration then!
Thank you for that WW, I wonder why you lied about it earlier.

I think overseas students already pay their way. Fees are huge and there are no easy living funds available. Many do come to study via sponsors or bursaries. If they then secure paid employment after qualification then they are here!

We have ways of making you talk!!!

This thread is getting more and more surreal and is beginning to feel more and more like the 30s

Who would have guessed that we would ever be taking part in this sort of conversation?

Penstemmon.

As we have been told several times by WW 'this is not an interrogation'. I have answered many questions only to have no replies or prevarication in response to my own in return.

SO in answer, happy to answer yours but you answer mine first, straight and honestly re unlimited EU immigration. Thank you.

dj

Oh that sounds like more extremist propaganda to me ..all Europeean countries I have visited retain a strong cultural heritage as we do here in UK. In my experience it is the extreme right wing people I have met who lack the willingness to want to participate in heritage events or even learn about them. For them it just means fighting /being racist towards people they do not like. I understand that some white working class have been betrayed by closures of major British industries with no replacement employment. But that was not the doing of the immigrant but a result of unfettered greedy capitalism.

Overseas students are enormously beneficial to our education system, I could really appreciate that when my two were at university.