Ahoy! anniebach, and other Corbyn fans (cough)!

It certainly won't stop until people can afford the risk of taking the press to court, which is exactly what Section 40 is supposed to enable, but you seem to want to stop it. Baffling!

If the law was enforced they would soon learn not to break it, hacking phones, libel, stalking is against the law yet they get away with it, it's all nonsense, it will not stop

The current balance works in favour of the media.

www.theguardian.com/law/2011/jul/18/no-win-no-fee-cfas-media-abuse

Personally, I don't think Section 40 goes far enough. It's about voluntary self-regulation, not some kind of state censorship.

The press should go to the cleaners for some of the stuff they write, but it won't ever happen.

No newspaper should escape the force of the law if they break the law,

I'm afraid I don't understand your point, ab.

The press should obey laws, just like anybody else, but they're not. That's the point. They often get away with what they do, because most people don't have the finances to take them on.

Section 40 isn't about state regulation. It's about setting up a system, which newspapers can choose to opt into and limits their liability.

In a democracy, it's essential that we have not only a free press, but an honest and responsible one. Personally, I don't think we have. Failing that, people need to be more cynical about what they read. Compulsory media studies?

The other part of the petition is about Leveson Part 2, which will probably not happen anyway. It's specifically about the News of the World's hacking, police involvement and any cover up and/or corruption. I'm a bit cynical about why somebody wouldn't want that to happen. It's about the press being responsible, even if they escape the force of law.

Well, I think that is a very unfair comparison.

Kumquats are delicious (not if they are old and shrivelled of course), but I suppose you could say that both JC and kumquats are thin-skinned.

I'll have a think about the second part of the OP.

The press should keep the laws , why do they need state regulations to do this?

There is no obligation for any newspaper to sign up to the regulatory body. It's like an insurance scheme. If the newspaper chooses not to sign up to the scheme, it runs the risk of being sued and having to pay out huge sums.

It protects newspapers which want to run genuine public interest stories from being prosecuted. It also provides people such as Millie Dowler's family and Christopher Jefferies with a low cost means of suing powerful media.

Is the site sponsored by News International by any chance?

Read the link!

Section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 isn't about state regulation either.

Some reasons why Section 40 should be implemented:

hackinginquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Hacked-Off-S40-submission.pdf

What the link is about is the fact that Leveson is suggesting that where a newspaper, for instance, publishes something that someone challenges through the courts, even if the newspaper wins the case in law (i.e. it is proved that the newspaper did not break any laws in saying what it said) the newspaper would still have to pay the court costs. This, it is feared, would bankrupt many publications very quickly, quite apart from the fact that it looks like an completely unjust suggestion.

In what way would the state regulate press without applying laws applicable in other contexts?

In any case, Leveson Part 2 (which is what the petition is about) is not about regulating the press. It's about specific allegations of police corruption and the conduct of the News of the World.

Since when did 'state regulated' mutate to obeying 'state laws'?

Part 2 is about specific claims of phone-hacking at the News of the World and what went wrong with the original police investigation. Why shouldn't it go ahead?

So you don't think state laws should apply to the press?

To be fair thatbags, she is kinder than I am about the lying, back stabbing , hypocritical toad.

He is to be relaunched in the new year,, more tv appearences , hope the studios have plenty of glass doors for him to hide behind

A state regulated press ? No way

Nope! I think Leveson Part 2 should go ahead, although I'm doubtful that it will.