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RIP Jill Saward

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seacliff Fri 06-Jan-17 13:00:42

What an amazing brave woman, she really made the most of her life and helped so many people.Condolences to her family and friends.

Jayh Fri 06-Jan-17 12:13:40

I remember this appalling crime too. Jill was so brave to talk about it then. Was her work recognised in the Honours List at all? I hope it was.
RIP Jill Saward.

Mair Fri 06-Jan-17 12:04:00

I don't think I would have the capacity to forgive anyone who hurt my child/grandchild. Sometimes anger is a better coping mechanism

No less valid or admirable either, especially if it is put to good effect as in the case of Sara Payne whose daughter was murdered by a paedo (and she also died tragically young).

gillybob Fri 06-Jan-17 11:49:57

Yes Mair apparently at the time of his retirement the judge apologised (if you can call it an apology) for what he described as a "blemish" hmm

I agree that some people are able to forgive (not forget) easier than others. I don't think I would have the capacity to forgive anyone who hurt my child/grandchild. Sometimes anger is a better coping mechanism.

Mair Fri 06-Jan-17 11:42:14

I remember this case. Poor woman. The judge's comments at the time were appalling. The rapists were given less of a sentence than the man convicted of burglary.

Absolutely, dreadful case, and she was treated appallingly. Tragic that she has now died so young and I wonder if the whole thing did impact on her health.

Theres been an interesting phone in on James OBrian this morning.
There was a brilliant caller who phoned in condemning this pressure on women to "forgive". She articulated brilliantly a feeling I have had but had not chrystalized. She said that while 'forgiving' may be helpful for some, it does not mean its the "right" approach for everybody, and that for many continuing to feel anger towards the perps can be their best way to deal with it, and a decision not to forgive, shouldnt be seen as a 'failure' nor should any pressure be put on women to forgive when their anger is fully justified.

She said that in the reporting of these vile crimes there is far too much focus on the victim and their behaviour, and eulogising of 'forgiveness', when in fact more attention should be paid to the perps, and what is causing them to behave in such an abominable way.

Anger is a valid response.

gillybob Fri 06-Jan-17 00:10:52

So sad to hear of her untimely death. A brave woman well worthy of recognition but (I am bitter) she was not Posh Spice or Royal or a Olympic sportsperson. sad

grannyqueenie Thu 05-Jan-17 23:32:26

It was a truly shocking case and she coped with it with amazing courage, great dignity and such a desire to make a difference for other survivors. Now that's what I'd call heroic. So sad for her family and friends to lose her at such a young age.

KatyK Thu 05-Jan-17 19:21:34

I remember this case. Poor woman. The judge's comments at the time were appalling. The rapists were given less of a sentence than the man convicted of burglary.

Christinefrance Thu 05-Jan-17 19:19:34

What a brave lady and such an untimely death
God Bless Jill.

petra Thu 05-Jan-17 18:58:51

One of the most horrific cases of modern times. God bless her.

Cherrytree59 Thu 05-Jan-17 18:52:53

RIP Jill.
A sad loss for Jill's family.

Charleygirl Thu 05-Jan-17 17:52:19

Too young to die RIP

mumofmadboys Thu 05-Jan-17 17:44:46

May you RIP Jill

Rinouchka Thu 05-Jan-17 17:44:01

Yes, very brave woman. I remember the case well and am surprised it was 30 years ago. I hope her personal life was fulfilling in the interim.

Anniebach Thu 05-Jan-17 17:41:16

So sad to learn of her death , brave lady

God Bless you Jill

Riverwalk Thu 05-Jan-17 17:35:22

Poor girl - hard to believe that case was 30 years ago.

tanith Thu 05-Jan-17 17:32:58

I remember this happening so well as we live in Ealing she had PTSD for a long time afterwards but still chose to relive her ordeal to help others which even in her untimely death it appears she will still be doing.

baubles Thu 05-Jan-17 17:28:57

I had to google her name but of course I remember the case. Brave woman, sad that she died so young.

grandMattie Thu 05-Jan-17 17:24:42

What a brave woman, Who can forget her. It is such a shame that she has had her life cut short by a stroke - and her family has agreed for the donations of her organs!
A life well live, and a brave, brave unsung heroine of the 21st century