Government must have vote on Brexit

What did you hear ab?

Good grief, I must have misheard, thought the news reader said two labour whips are going to vote against the leaders orders

mair you post 0.45am

Politics of division writ large I am afraid. Pretty poor show.

so labour MP's must only be from council estates with fathers who bred whippets and pigeons .

And going on QT makes one a celebrity ?

I don't think we have to know all of a politician's background, or personal circumstances, illness etc of family members, to make a comment on a forum about their political decisions that would be quite ridiculous.And Siddiq refusing to vote to trigger article 50 IS a political decision, no matter if she agrees with her constituents
( she obviously does) to vote in line with Labour would lose her the Hampstead seat at the next election.

Ah, the "check your privilege" insult. Really good argument. Not.

Isn't Tulip Siddiq a fantastic name?

There are lots of politicians from all parties from wealthy backgrounds. That's not surprising it?

Yes Mair, that was below the belt. This lady's family including a six year child were murdered most horribly as I remember. They were chased around the Presidential Palace, cornered, and killed - appallingly awful. Perhaps you are/were unaware of this? Why should who her family is make any difference to her political beliefs or actions? surely accident of birth is something no one can help and completely irrelevant?! and I'm a wicked Tory!!!!!!

Has the green eyed monster taken over your keyboard Mair? What's with the sneering?

Do you think the Hampstead Luvvies know that her grandfather and three uncles were assassinated? Or that her father was disabled after a stroke?

Just caught up with this.
Devorgilla, the Health and Social Care Act was brought in on All Fools Day, so why not Article 50?

Invite to Question Time surely guaranteed after this and a previously unknown MP goes celebrity.

Crafty move.

Quite right Roses.

if she didn't do this, she would lose her seat next time as the Hampstead Luvvies would never forgive her

I wonder if her Labour supporters are aware of the very privileged background she comes from, ironic really that so many MPs who are viewed favourably because of their ethnicity are so much more privileged than the native Brits competing with them in front of selection committees. I guess in Hampstead its seen as a plus point though.

"Her maternal grandfather is Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, founding father and the first Prime Minister of Bangladesh.
Her mother's older sister is Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina."

Having recently had a baby it might actually be a clever tactical move to put career plans briefly on the back burner and ally herself with the committed pro EU Chukka wing.

Yes dd I know, have seen her on The Daily Politics a few times, but it's also true that if she didn't do this, she would lose her seat next time as the Hampstead Luvvies would never forgive her.So, both your comment and mine are both true.

roses Tulip Siddiq has always been a personal supporter of Remain, as are her constituents. Her seat was the most marginal in the country when Glenda Jackson just held it in 2010 and was one of the few in 2015 in which Labour increased its lead. She has followed her conscience and represented what her constituents wanted, while putting her personal ambitions as a shadow cabinet member on the back burner. I admire her for that.

That's a shame Maizie but if democracy really does mean anything, I think it's only right that MPs should represent their constituency vote, whatever their party tells them to do. I'm disappointed that more MPs aren't prepared to ignore the party line and represent their constituencies.

I agree, too. But as I live in a very strong Leave area I don't think I could ask my MP to vote against A50.

A few MP's may resign, Tulip something or other has resigned from the shadow cabinet, she knows that her liberal Hampstead voters wouldn't be voting for her next time otherwise, so she is safeguarding her seat.
I hope it all goes through quickly, and then we can get on and do what needs doing.

Thank you Tricia I am sure that there are now more than 48% of us who think like this, but can our voices be geard?

ps just read your last post, varian.
I entirely agree with you on this.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but I think it was a big mistake for Corbyn to put a 3line whip on this forthcoming debate/ vote.
I had been hoping the Supreme Court would confirm that Parliament had to debate the issue. Now they have the opportunity, each MP should be able to go back to his/her constituency and ask them for any change of views since the referendum. That's what democracy is about. MPs should reflect the view of their constituency, as well as their own view.

Sir William (Bill) Cash is a eurosceptic extraordinaire. Even he wants the government to be more transparent and recognise the sovereignty of Parliament. This is a letter he has written to David Davis:

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/01/25/parliament-is-sovereign-as-bill-cash-has-rightly-noted/

Off-the-scale unrealistic.

Why would that upset you, Ankers?

I wasnt about to blow a gasket about the daphnedill figures.

It was about the post about by whitewave saying We CAN and must reach an agreement that ALL can accept. Through compromise.

My mistake for not making my last post on here clearer.

Have emailed mine. But I think he's thinking of rejecting it anyway.