Melania and equality

To be honest I couldn't care less about the Trumps, as far as I am conerned he has no respect for women and is a complete idiot and the rest of the family I just don't want to know. There are far more things in the world to worry about than the Trumps personalities.

How anyone can defend a man who has just about every ugly 'ism' coming out of his soulless body every time he Speaks I will never understand

Just because someone defends Melania Trump against some of the sheer nastiness that is on social media does not mean they like or support her husband.

Why - what's in it? As you must have read it cover to cover then to know, perhaps you'll enlighten us MaizieD?

Because the Daily Mail devotes a huge amount of space to bitching about female celebrities. Particularly their weight gain, outfits etc.

I occasionally read their articles on line. The right hand sidebar of bitching goes on for ever.

So I thought it would be a bit hypocritical of DM readers to be criticising similar 'bitching' on Gransnet..

I commented on the remark made by handmadedogsweaters
I think Michelle Ob-bomba is very jealous of Melinia as she is beautiful and womanly looking and unlike her does not look manish
Perhaps Melania is intelligent and compassionate, I really don't yet know, I do know Michelle is. My remarks were about how women are still judged, not about their individual characters.
As for the 'plastic beauty' I would use that for anyone whose looks were so obviously heavily dependant on make up and other assistance. So if I was assessing them on beauty I would regard Michelle as the most attractive, but I would prefer to use different standards for women.

www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-twitter-followers-more-than-half-an-onion-7544041

For anyone on twitter.

Wasn't Trump elected on fighting corruption?

www.indy100.com/article/trump-stocks-in-dakota-access-pipeline-drain-swamp-oil-7544921

I keep reading she speaks five languages, Bluebelle. Is that what happens when your husband becomes president?

America is no longer a full democracy.

Democracy Index 2016

According to the 2016 Democracy Index almost one-half of the world’s countries can be considered to be democracies of some sort, but the number of “full democracies” has declined from 20 in 2015 to 19 in 2016. The US has been downgraded from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” because of a further erosion of trust in government and elected officials there.

The "democratic recession" worsened in 2016, when no region experienced an improvement in its average score and almost twice as many countries (72) recorded a decline in their total score as recorded an improvement (38). Eastern Europe experienced the most severe regression. The 2016 Democracy Index report, Revenge of the "deplorables", examines the deep roots of today's crisis of democracy in the developed world, and looks at how democracy fared in every region

Strange that speaking seven languages equates with not being brow beaten haha
It's not a knock DT he does that beautifully himself every time he opens his mouth
How anyone can defend a man who has just about every ugly 'ism' coming out of his soulless body every time he Speaks I will never understand

I saw these two clips earlier and wondered if the way they get out of the car and walk up the steps could be a security issue.

There are security men between Trump and Melania as though they wanted to keep a distance between them. The security men are standing further back in the Obama clip.

These things are carefully orchestrated so I don't think we should read too much into it.

www.indy100.com/article/difference-barack-obama-donald-trump-two-videos-playback-us-7538906

Nice to see the usual prejudices and outdated standards for assessing women are still alive and kicking on GN. Intelligence and compassion count for nothing, plastic manufactured beauty is what matters.
I can't really agree there trisher

I admired Michelle Obama and in fact thought she was very beautiful as well as intelligent and compassionate.

However, I, like most people, know very little about Melania Trump and I think many of the criticisms of her have been very uncalled for. She has been First Lady for only a few days - who knows what programmes she may become involved with? Why does her intelligence count for nothing? And why is it expected of a First Lady anyway? They did not get elected, their husbands did.

Plastic manufactured beauty - that is the kind of remark which will make people defend her because it really is unpleasant.

trisher
re the three stages - I don't remember the first one at all!! Certainly, if it happened, it didn't last for 12 years!!
but DH does carry the shopping bags in now!

So, can I get this clear?

Theresa May has been constantly criticised for not being clearer about her plans for Brexit
Donald Trump has immediately put into action promises made during his election campaign and is criticised for it.
Michelle was criticised for her speeches, for 'hanging on to the coat tails of the President and not working' (on a thread not long ago)
Melania is being criticised for what she is wearing, who she married, where she lives, whatever she does or does not do. Presumably, with a husband who is so busy, it is better for her to stay where she is pro tem and where her DP can help out with her son.

None of them can win whatever they do.

Are you saying that Melania is neither intelligent nor compassionate trisher?

hmds GO THE TRUMPS indeed- just wish I was able to choose where.
Nice to see the usual prejudices and outdated standards for assessing women are still alive and kicking on GN. Intelligence and compassion count for nothing, plastic manufactured beauty is what matters.

I wonder why it's always the Daily Mail the comes in for criticism on GN? It's never The Sun or The Express for example!

I just hope that none of you who are objecting to comments about Melania Trump read the Daily Mail.

Why - what's in it? As you must have read it cover to cover then to know, perhaps you'll enlighten us MaizieD?

www.indy100.com/article/lbc-james-obrien-vetting-muslims-border-donald-trump-fail-7547521

If Donald trump carries out his promises he will be the first president to do so.I think Michelle Ob-bomba is very jealous of Melinia as she is beautiful and womanly looking and unlike her does not look manish. GO THE TRUMPS.

Everybody thought the idea of a wall between the US and Mexico was bluff.
What do you think Guantanamo Bay is all about?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-muslim-ban-saudi-arabia-executive-order-islam-migrants-syria-sudan-somalia-iraq-iran-libya-a7547531.html

He's not banning Saudi Muslims, even though 15 of the 19 involved in the attack on the World Trade Centre were Saudi citizens. I find it very worrying that he is not consistent in his policies.

I honestly believe that all this talk about using torture is bluff and saying what his followers want him to say. I do not think he would allow it and I don't think he means it. I think he just wants to say he would so that terrorists would not be sure what he would do. That is called talking tough. I do not think all this rubbish about getting rid of all Muslims in the USA is about to happen either. They are just threats without substance. Only time will tell.

I'm as against torture as millions of others but I don't think we should take the high moral ground when it is clear out secret service have also been involved - not on UK soil but in planes and other countries for sure.

I think he's probably horrid in most respects but he's an easy target for internet
bullying in particular photos of the Obama's smiling and he and Melania scowling - easy to manipulate.

I'm ignoring all this coverage as a) I'm not interested b) I'm only interested in the more serious "news" that is important to both this Country & World. We're stuck with Trump for 4 years short of Assassination or Indictment for some "offence". Don't read "Celeb magazines" either

When was that, roses? I have news24 on at the moment and they are still worried about the fact that Trump might still use torture.