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Christinefrance Mon 06-Feb-17 19:32:14

I've just heard that the Speaker Mr Bercow wants to ban Donald Trump from speaking in the House. Whilst not in agreement with most of the Donald 's ideas I do believe in the freedom of speech. What do others think ?

Ankers Fri 10-Feb-17 09:18:33

But can you see Cunco's point durhamjen?

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 09:16:27

Except that nobody is forcing you to read the link, Cunco. It's up to you whether you do or not, isn't it?
Lots of people on here ignore my links, and take great delight in telling me so.

Cunco Fri 10-Feb-17 08:43:16

I think it is dangerous to use any one newspaper or wiki as a source of fact, any even more dangerous to use a link to a website with a clear political slant. The problem with unfamiliar links is increased by the fact that it is not always easy to unsubscribe.

Personally, I prefer a discussion where links to factual websites are provided to back up an argument, not to make the argument.

Being hit by one-line website links is a bit like sitting in a pub having a discussion and being interrupted by somebody who walks in, slams a pamphlet down on the table and walks out. Much better to offer to buy a round, sit down and join the conversation.

Fitzy54 Fri 10-Feb-17 08:28:34

I'm no fan of the DM or indeed, the Guardian, as both have far too much political bias, but the Wiki determination of DM as effectively a fake news source really doesn't make sense to me. Looks to me to be simply a result of a concerted effort by those who don't like it's politics. Made me smile though!

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 01:02:12

Gets even better, Rigby.

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/02/daily-mail-columnist-dan-hodges-gets-owned-by-wikipedia-founder-over-mail-ban/

POGS Fri 10-Feb-17 00:55:12

Fair enough, thank you.

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 00:50:55

freespeechforpeople.org/about/board-of-directors/

rootsaction.org/about-rootsaction/staff-bios

Just in case.....

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 00:48:25

As Ana has no intention of reading the link, I have no intention of spoonfeeding her with information. I have answered you by giving you a link to who organised the impeachdonaldtrump website.
They appear to be well organised legal people. You could have found it on the site. I could cut and paste, but I think you are just as capable of clicking the link below.

impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org/who-we-are-2/

POGS Fri 10-Feb-17 00:37:37

durhamjen

Do you have any response to the question asked by Ana and myself as to the source of your link promoting signing a petition to impeach Donald Trump?

Sorry if you have given a reply in yet another one your links but I don't see you have provided an answer.

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 00:31:41

This is not so good.

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-apocalypse_us_5898f02ee4b040613138a951

This man is in charge of Donald Trump, who is in charge of apocalypse.

Rigby46 Fri 10-Feb-17 00:15:59

Yes I saw it today - love it!

durhamjen Fri 10-Feb-17 00:08:17

Hope you appreciate this as much as I do.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

Sorry if it's been on before.

Jalima Thu 09-Feb-17 23:44:36

Ankers
Allegedly is a good word

or one of its synonyms:
reportedly, supposedly
(There are others)

smile

durhamjen Thu 09-Feb-17 23:40:47

impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org/who-we-are-2/

durhamjen Thu 09-Feb-17 23:38:34

theconversation.com/donald-trump-could-be-about-to-end-net-neutrality-71732

Ana Thu 09-Feb-17 20:58:17

POGS, yes I realise it was from that link, but I never read durhamjen's links, as she knows.

I just wanted to know who had actually said those words.

POGS Thu 09-Feb-17 20:55:08

Ana

I think it is from a link to a petition to get Trump impeached as the link , I believe to be the one, from durhamjen says this:-

'By signing you agree that you may receive emails from RootsAction.org and/or Free Speech For People. We will not share your information. You can unsubscribe at any time.'

I tried to find out who/what RootsAction.org are but it is not very clear.

What do you know of them durhamjen.?

I assume you must know to link GN posters to the site asking for them to sign the petition.

Ana Thu 09-Feb-17 20:41:20

But who said it durhamjen?

nigglynellie Thu 09-Feb-17 20:41:15

President Clinton was impeached for perjury and the obstruction of justice! He got away with it of course, but it left a bad taste and Hillary with 'baggage'. How much more sensible to have had Bernie Saunders! Hind sight is a wonderful thing!

Ana Thu 09-Feb-17 20:38:11

Can't be too careful these days, Ankers! grin

Ankers Thu 09-Feb-17 20:35:29

Half of the population do seem to be happy with Trump.
Cant see him being impeached anytime soon.
Voting population that is. According to some polls. Latest. [I am feeling I need to cover all bases with this post for some reason!]

POGS Thu 09-Feb-17 20:29:14

durhamjen

You mean the link to the petition to have Trump Impeached?

durhamjen Thu 09-Feb-17 20:22:09

It's from the link I put on last night about impeaching Trump.
About ten posts ago.

Ana Thu 09-Feb-17 20:01:17

Where or who is that quote from durhamjen?

Jalima Thu 09-Feb-17 19:54:53

A President can't be impeached because half the population and some of the rest of the world don't like what he is doing!

The Constitution sets specific grounds for impeachment. They are “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.” To be impeached and removed from office, the House and Senate must find that the official committed one of these acts.
A simple majority of the U.S. House of Representatives (at least 218 votes) is required to impeach a U.S. President, followed by a two-thirds majority vote in the Senate (at least 67 votes). The number of votes required make impeachment difficult. No American President has been removed from office by impeachment.

Wishful thinking on the part of some.