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thatbags Thu 23-Feb-17 21:21:10

What these people have to say about Labour as it is now struck cords with me.

Peter Hurst (@peterleohurst)
'Blue labour types' right about 1thing: many trad Labour voters more conservative than many third wayers/centrists care to acknowledge.
2. That conservatism with a small 'c' includes things like loving the royal family and being proud of being British. Social dems might not
3. win via 'riding the tiger of nationalism' but they wont win via the old 'New' Labour formulation either. The 5 million voters lost
4. During the years 1997-2010 are not going to return to a party that is, in effect, the lib dems in drag Iain. prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/labou…

Lisa Muggeridge (@LisaMuggeridge)
I have noticed that Westminster does appear to believe that the only function of the north is to reliably vote Labour. And we don't now.
For as long as UKIP, the Labour left and fringe batshittery is the only alternative to Lab up here the Tories will clean up.
'Why would working class people vote Tory'. Because they cant vote Labour and the alternative is UKIP. In a nutshell.
One of the striking things about the left is this shock at working class tories, and working class people who dont want their revolution.

The photo is Hurst's Twitter profile. What it says seems well put too.

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 21:23:53

But Cameron was the party leader. Annie wouldn't agree with that. In fact a lot of people told Cameron to take a back seat towards the end because he was doing harm to the remain campaign.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 21:21:59

Did she hide behind s glass door ? perhaps like the shadow foreign secretary she is prone to migraines

She was not leader, Corbyn was , leaders lead do they not? Well perhaps not every leader

rosesarered Mon 13-Mar-17 21:19:38

Cameron should have put some distance between himself and the Remain camp ( like May) he could easily have done that, whilst saying 'look, my advice is to Remain, but whatever you, the country decide, we will do' and then carried on as PM and overseen us leaving the EU.

rosesarered Mon 13-Mar-17 21:16:56

Eh? No, she is not my MP......what gave you that idea?
You mean that she hid ( like Corbyn?)

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 21:14:48

She hid, roses. I am surprised you do not think a Brexiteer would be a better person to lead us out of the EU.
However, I keep forgetting she's your MP.

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 21:12:52

Okay, it wasn't an important post. She was only in charge of who came in and who left the country, the whole law around Brexit. She changed quite a lot of laws while in the job under Cameron - but not important enough to have to be seen on the Brexit trail.

rosesarered Mon 13-Mar-17 21:11:18

Exactly, it was only really because she had put some distance between herself and the Remain camp that she was able to take over as PM.If Cameron had not been so vociferously involved, he would still be PM taking us out of the EU.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 21:09:34

Home Secretary is not the party leader .

True Ana

Ana Mon 13-Mar-17 20:14:52

And Theresa May had to do the job which Cameron had scuttled away from - i.e. deliver on the referendum promise. Whatever her private thoughts about the matter were beforehand.

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 20:07:22

May was in charge of the Home Office. Quite an important post, even you must agree. She was more important than the three Brexiteers.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 20:00:38

May was not the party leader, Corbyn was, lead by example ?

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 19:43:12

www.the3million.org.uk/

varian Mon 13-Mar-17 19:34:33

Corbyn and May did exactly the same thing - they were ostensibly for Remain but made no effort to support any campaign. Corbyn was found out but May got away with it.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 19:19:16

If he cared so much about E.u Cituzens living here pity he didn't put effort into the Brexit campaign

POGS Mon 13-Mar-17 19:01:45

Well I dare say they will not be very happy tonight as both of the Lords Amendments have been 'Lost'.

I hope the demonstration remains ' peaceful '.

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 19:00:23

Yes, but you don't care about EU citizens living here. Corbyn does.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 17:42:29

Not for a party leader please,

rosesarered Mon 13-Mar-17 17:31:30

Yes, a demo, that's right up Corbyns street.grin

durhamjen Mon 13-Mar-17 17:16:59

Corbyn and McDonnell going to join Momentum and NUS outside Parliament tonight about the EU migrants living and working here.

my.labourlist.org/page/m/2c9aef24/13fa0d4e/636826b1/34aca32c/4154107576/VEsC/

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 15:09:01

llovecheese, when did the cirbyn shadow cabinet influence the government? And how were the venerable helped?

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 15:07:07

Sunk back to sarcasm Trisher, pity

Hooe doesn't pay the rent ir feed the hungry

Ilovecheese Mon 13-Mar-17 15:06:14

But they were helping the vulnerable when they were influencing the government.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 14:56:47

llovecheese, not even to help the vunerable ?

trisher Mon 13-Mar-17 14:55:16

The homeless, those having their benefits cut, and all the others who are suffering under this government will be so happy that you plan to win the next election in 2020 Anniebach meantime a real opposition that stood behind an elected leader and presented real socialist policies with an anti-austerity programme might be something that would give them more hope now.

Anniebach Mon 13-Mar-17 14:52:01

Sorry Trisher I posted a reply on sbusive comments to you and just noticed it was said by a poster I choose to ignore , difficult at times not to read in error

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