Labour now

The Conservatives regard him as a gift!

Because a good Opposition hold the Government to account more.

Most of the reports I saw and heard on the NI fiasco seemed to focus on the fact that Corbyn didn't make enough fuss about it. So why is it more important that we have an inadequate opposition rather than that we have an inadequate and incompetent government, particularly when we so need an efficient one?

Fitzy quite a few of us have said that the policies of the hard left are just not what this country wants, but many on the forum don't believe it.

The press didn't hold back on the NIC clanger , but Corbyn did

Beammeup - the budget!

What is such a pity is Corbyn's home is the back benches, he spoke out, rebelled against his own party often, took part in demo marches, he is lost on the front bench, he knows it, voters know it , he is so a fish out if water . And I am not being bitchy. Dennis Skinner is admired but he couldn't lead the party. Tom Watson couldn't either.

Beammeupscottie please could you direct me to a recent example of this government being held to account by the press?I think they are too busy lambasting Corbyn and the Labour Party to bother with other things. Yes he is an easy target, but surely there should be some calling of the government to account?

Corbyn is no asset but the real reason labour have such poor support is their hard left policies. It was no miracle that Blair had so much electoral success. Rightly or wrongly people generally avoid more extreme policies.

trisher, I dont partly doubt that you are right re media bias.
Trouble is though, when people can see him for themselves, direct so to speak, he doesnt always do himself any favours.

All Governments make mistakes and are held to account by the Press. If Socialists do not like it, they should get themselves a new leader.
Image (quite wrongly, maybe) is everything. In all walks of life, in order to succeed, you need to look the part. Unpalatable to many, but true.
I wouldn't want Corbyn to look after a goldfish, let alone a Country.

So show is what counts Beammeupscottie and as long as we have people who look the part they can screw everything up. Just thinking about the Conservatives who have messed up things this parliament-Mrs May, Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove. Why aren't the press holding them to account?

Distraction !

Start a thread Trisher in the faults of May, dud you expect to find praise/critcism of her on a thread ticked Labour Now?

So what gossip has been posted on here? Facts and opinions yes but gossip?

Ankers we were discussing the media bias. I am seriously concerned that there is now real bias and the way it operates is to forgive one politician's mistakes and focus on anothers. It has always happened to a certain extent but seems now to be worsening. I used May's inadequacies as Home Secretary as an example.

It's all to do with Statesmanship. You may not like the Tories but you know where you are with them unlike Corbyn, who is your archetypal Red under the Bed. He invites ridicule with his hiding behind women, his bloody jam and lack of leadership towards his own Parliamentarians,

I agree trisher If I have got this right, neither Mrs may or Philip Hammomd had read their own manifesto, he has had to do a u turn with his budget, we don't know where the money will come from now that it isn't coming from raising NI, and somehow the labour party is at fault?

I tried to trisher, but the thread didnt get very far as I was told that there was already a thread going about her.

Which there was, but it was not about her character particularly.

I will bring it back up again sometime. Assuming I can find it.

POGS what is interesting about Mrs May is that no-one now brings up her inadequacies, for some reason she is now portrayed as 'a safe pair of hands' past cock ups are now forgotten and consigned to history. But she is the PM leading us into the most important negotiations in my children's, and possibly my, lifetime. For some reason the leader of the opposition who has no power and no real role in what will happen has every single mistake trawled up all the time. Yes you may be aware of what has happened but the majority of the British public have short memories and the media for some reason of their own don't want us to examine the PM more carefully.
I'm ignoring the posts about Corbyn, those who want to spend their time in idle and inane gossip, and character assassination, are welcome to carry on supporting each other. As the woman said to the drunk and the pig in the gutter "You can tell...etc"

yew dirrrty old man

I meant on this forum Riverwalk,

No need to have kept quiet about that Annie the references to Steptoe has been put about by the Daily Mail for some time.

Ok, I have kept quiet on this but now it is being spoken of - for sometime Corbyn is known as Albert Steptoe in the Westminster corridors, across parties

I should have added I agree, sorry . It realy was a dismal PMQ MawBroon

Thanks Ab I had been wondering if we had x'd posts, but just great minds thinking alike ?