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Hopkins gets her come-uppance ?

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MawBroon Fri 10-Mar-17 21:46:49

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/katie-hopkinsdefeated-by-jack-monroe-in-libel-case_uk_58c28bf5e4b054a0ea69df05?ncid=fcbklnkukhpmg00000001

An expensive display of arrogance, £24K damages plus over £100K costs.
I believe that she turned down several opportunities to apologise.

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 12:19:28

I don't read her, I do hear some things she has said because it is either on the news or repeated here.

What I have read I think it unkind and hurtful but it's her opinion

Ankers Sat 11-Mar-17 12:18:57

That still makes her employed by the DM, surely?

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 12:17:50

Well I draw my own lines based on social norms and mores and the ethical framework in which I exist and which are shared by many others

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 12:14:49

She's not employed by the DM - she's overpaid to write a regular column as a freelancer. The DM love KH's brand - the tweet is all part of it.

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 12:12:48

So where is the the line Rigsby? Who draws the line?

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 12:12:20

roses there's far more to JM than the DC issue. That was a bit one sided POGS. She has some redeeming features which is more than you can say about KH. The £24k is peanuts in libel damages terms which fairly reflects the content of the tweet. I think the judge was fairly scathing about her failure to apologise and donate £5k to a charity which JM had offered as a resolution. What KH tweeted was libellous and unnecessary - it's funny really that she'd muddled up JM with someone else in the first place - that meant an apology was even more necessary.

Ankers Sat 11-Mar-17 12:11:28

POGS I agree.

Ankers Sat 11-Mar-17 12:10:25

I dont understand why KH didnt apologise. Unless as I said before, the DM didnt want her too.
Yes she was on twitter at the time, but she is still employed by the DM,and has her "brand" to consider.

Perhpas KH just doesnt do sorry?

POGS Sat 11-Mar-17 12:08:05

"To see ourselves as others see us"

How true.

LadyGracie Sat 11-Mar-17 12:06:22

I must admit on occasions she does say what an awful lot of people would like to say, but daren't! I can't say I like or dislike her, I do always read her articles in the DM.

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 12:02:49

But ab it's not as simple as that - I think many of us make decisions daily about how we responsibly exercise free speech within the constrains of decency, politeness and acceptability and whilst of course there will not be complete agreement, I think there are some agreed parameters - it's not just a free for all

POGS Sat 11-Mar-17 12:01:51

rosesarered

"Have never read anything by her, and who is Jack Monroe?"

Google her name with David Cameron/Sainsburys for an example.

I suppose it's as with all things in life some people find one persons views distasteful somebody else will find another's views distasteful.

I care not a jot for Katy Hopkins or Jack Munroe they both have the 'platform' to expound their views but I have to admit to thinking if what Katy Hopkins has written in this particular court case has cost her £24 grand plus then Lord knows what could be made of some of the comments even on Gransnet.

I thought Katy Hopkins had tweeted something far worse to be honest when I first heard about this . Perhaps a salutary lesson to be learned somewhere along the line!

annodomini Sat 11-Mar-17 11:28:05

This libel was not part of her job as it was on Twitter. The Independent says that her costs are £300K. She needed to know that there's a price to pay for the bile she spews.

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 11:22:41

I do know the difference between an opinion and libel,

what's to gain? For her it's well paid work, but who can decide how far free speech can be exercised , excluding libel. No one because what hurts one doesn't bother another

rosesarered Sat 11-Mar-17 11:10:53

If she breaks the law again then she will pay the price again ( or her employers will.)
Have never read anything by her, and who is Jack Monroe?

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 10:58:52

Of course but I don't have to like what she is free to say - this thread is about the fact that she has broken the law twice.i think with the right to free speech goes the responsibility of deciding how far we will exercise that and what is to be gained in some situations by so doing even if it's not libellous.

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 10:52:22

Back to freedom of speech Rigby.

Rigby46 Sat 11-Mar-17 10:49:14

ab of course it is and more shame them and the DM and LBC for facilitating and encouraging this.

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 10:12:11

What she says is what some think

Jalima Sat 11-Mar-17 09:59:25

It's a sad world if she has become famous and presumably was wealthy from doing nothing more than being nasty.

I mean - what does she do exactly???

Jalima Sat 11-Mar-17 09:56:48

I have heard of her ( the Apprentice?) and the tweeter who won the case (vaguely) although I don't tweet and neither is on my radar usually.

However, I saw this on the news and believe the right verdict was reached. Free speech or freedom to express your thoughts in the written word are to be applauded and upheld but lies and false accusations should be retracted and an apology given.

Spiteful, stubborn and now looking stupid.

Ginny42 Sat 11-Mar-17 09:53:40

Well, if that's her passport photo she'd probably be turned away at passport control.

No offence intended to any Christian members.

Ginny42 Sat 11-Mar-17 09:50:58

She sees herself as saintly? Seriously delusional behaviour. Is that image not blasphemous? As others have pointed out though, it keeps her in the news and that's what it's all about.

merlotgran Sat 11-Mar-17 09:47:11

I thought she was going to emigrate to USA if Trump became president......What happened. Won't he let her in?

Anniebach Sat 11-Mar-17 09:43:01

And the sacred heart is a symbol of Christ Elegran