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Syria - what is to be done?

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whitewave Wed 05-Apr-17 08:22:37

Listening to an American this morning talking about air strikes. I haven't a clue but Assad must be stopped.

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 22:57:44

The thing that really upsets me is much closer to home when they say that the terrorists were known to the authorities before they acted. Surely this means the authorities should act before not after?

daphnedill Sat 08-Apr-17 22:53:39

No thank you! I heard enough about this kind of stuff when I was a child. The woman in the red suit third from right is my godmother.

John Tyndall (4th from left) was the neo-Nazi chairman of the National Front, founder of the World Union of National Socialists and the BNP.

Hans-Ulrich Rudel (3rd from left) was a neo-Nazi,who founded and organisation for Nazi war criminals in Argebtina.

Savitri Devi (front row right) was a Nazi writer, who often wrote about cultural warfare.

I suspect I know at least as much about this kind of drivel as you do.

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 22:35:32

Apparently they didn't aim for the runway because a runway can be quickly repaired. I wonder how much sarin they've taken with them, sarin made using chemicals that we sold to them.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/08/could-britain-have-sold-sarin-chemicals-assad-syria

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 22:12:56

Says the expert Daphnedill. It chronicles a history of world war events by those who were well read. It's worth reading.

daphnedill Sat 08-Apr-17 22:05:19

Warplanes took off from the runway to bomb Homs after the Americans claimed it had been destroyed. It's as though Assad is holding up two fingers to Trump.

daphnedill Sat 08-Apr-17 22:01:58

nina1959 It might be a good read for those paranoid about world domination by "others", but no thanks!

I was brought up with that kind of cr*p. Thank goodness I grew up!

trisher Sat 08-Apr-17 21:59:08

I saw that about the runway as well MaizieD It seems ridiculous doesn't it bomb an airfield but miss the runway!!??

MaizieD Sat 08-Apr-17 21:47:52

I have to say that I've been thinking a bit along the same lines as trisher 18.53. According to my paper this morning the Russians were warned about the attack and I saw a photo on twitter yesterday of the bombed airfield which showed very clearly that these missiles, which can be fired with deadly accuracy, did not destroy the runway, just buildings. This second 'fact' is confirmed by dj's very recent post saying that the planes were reportedly taking off from it.

I can't make head or tail of what is going on, but I think that the poster who said much earlier on this thread that we're not getting the whole truth is pretty well on the money...

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 21:34:40

Another book is The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. It's said that every world leader will have a copy on their bedside table.

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 21:29:41

This is a good read. It shows how the tactical displacement of people allows them to impregnate another land with their culture thus achieving the ambition of those political parties driving the force behind it.

www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/?GCOI=80140100627270

daphnedill Sat 08-Apr-17 21:10:25

So who's telling the truth?

Apparently, Syrian jets took off yesterday afternoon from air base US missiles struck.

www.cnbc.com/2017/04/07/syrian-jets-take-off-from-air-base-us-missiles-struck-syrian-observatory.html

BUT, thirty minutes ago, U.S. U.S. Navy Admiral Michelle Howard claimed that the US strikes destroyed Syrian means to deliver chemical weapons.

www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-idUSKBN17A0QD?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58e93b6704d30165f8c19993&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

So did those cruise missiles achieve their objective or not?

What's the US going to do if Syria or Russia uses more chemical weapons?

Fitzy54 Sat 08-Apr-17 21:06:21

We're digressing a bit here!

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 21:05:48

I don't think they were that dumb or downtrodden. I also think they wanted to be part of the world stage.

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 21:03:27

Apparently they has a $300 budget for clothes, etc. Amazing what the idea of a free meal will do!

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 21:00:30

Really? They turned up under protest???? I don't think so.

Anya Sat 08-Apr-17 20:59:13

A three-line whip?

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 20:58:27

Free dress and make-up?

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 20:54:25

Well they all turned up at his inauguration so it beats me.

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 20:53:53

I'm pleased you live in the UK, nina. You won't be able to vote for the idiot.

Anya Sat 08-Apr-17 20:51:29

Really?

This from the New Yorker

"When “Lost Tycoon” was published, Trump denounced it, and last year, in a tweet, he called Hurt (the author) a “dummy dope” who “wrote a failed book.”

The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’ ” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 20:45:51

I think it says a lot that his ex wives still like him.

nina1959 Sat 08-Apr-17 20:45:00

I live in the UK.

Ana Sat 08-Apr-17 20:40:50

The trouble is, his decisions and actions are unpredictable.

Anya Sat 08-Apr-17 20:39:58

Trump is always playing to his audience.

durhamjen Sat 08-Apr-17 20:39:52

Do you live in the USA?