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No more free school meals for youngest pupils.

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daphnedill Sat 20-May-17 22:03:01

Luckygirl Who provided the lunches for those children entitled to free school meals before they were made compulsory for KS1?

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Anya Sat 20-May-17 21:01:08

It was only KS1 pupils who were entitled to FSM, KS2 had to pay or take a packed lunch, just to clarify.

The point is who is going to pay for supervision of Breakfast Clubs? It's not the case that most schools already have them either. When I worked for the LEA I provided funding for setting up Breakfast Clubs, to pay mainly for equipment such as large toasters, a fridge, dishes, cutlery etc. In schools who didn't have their own kitchen. But the ongoing staffing costs were picked up by the school as they had a budget for Out of Hours provision, which has since dried up.

It can't be right to take away a cooked school dinner for 'infants' and replace it with a bowl of cereal, a piece of toast and a glass of juice.

Incidentally my GC attend 3 different schools and none of them run a Breakfast Club.

Ana Sat 20-May-17 16:36:41

Yes, I already said that. But now they're doing away with free school lunches for primaary school pupils, so what's your point, Luckygirl?

Luckygirl Sat 20-May-17 16:31:23

I am governor at a very small rural primary - you have no idea the problems that were caused by the free school meals. Who to get to do it? - is anyone willing to travel to the middle of nowhere for the minute profit on a few meals? Ah, well, the school will have to subsidise them from their already minute and dwindling budget - well that's just fine then.

Ana Sat 20-May-17 16:24:25

I don't need to be told anything by you.

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 16:21:58

You need to listen to the experts.

Ana Sat 20-May-17 16:15:27

Mine do too, although theirs at school are free already (being in Wales).

rosesarered Sat 20-May-17 16:02:23

Yes, I think it was, it came in around that time and wasn't universally popular with schools.There are already breakfast clubs in most schools now aren't there?
My DGS enjoys one at home and another breakfast at school ( and he's still thin.)

Ana Sat 20-May-17 15:55:14

Yes, kitchens having to be installed, staff engaged etc.

Wasn't it Nick Clegg's trade-off policy as student tuition fees were introduced despite the LibDem promise that they wouldn't be?

rosesarered Sat 20-May-17 15:45:17

This policy may never see the light of day, Parliament may well reject it.
If it does go ahead ( and free school meals for all children at primaries hasn't been around that long) then money and staff funding would need to be provided.
I remember a bit of a furore by teachers when this hot meal idea came in, there was quite a bit of huffing and puffing from some schools ( who didn't do any/many
Hot lunches).

MamaCaz Sat 20-May-17 15:34:21

I have been wondering: what impact will this have on the many nurseries currently running breakfast clubs, and who quite possibly rely on these to help offset the under-funding of the free hours that they are expected to provide for 4 and 4 year olds? Could it push them over the edge?

f77ms Sat 20-May-17 14:15:48

She really is a piece of work . I had hopes that she wouldn`t be another Thatcher but is turning out to be worse . God help us .

whitewave Sat 20-May-17 14:10:26

I despair!

Anya Sat 20-May-17 13:48:14

As no doubt everyone knows by now TM has decided that KS1 pupils (4-7 year olds) will no longer have free school meals, but instead will introduce breakfast.

This was posted on my FB page by a friend.

I am headteacher at a medium sized primary school in London.
The Tory manifesto says primary schools will provide free breakfasts for all. Does this mean they also pay the staff to serve them? I can afford some Rice Krispies, but enough adults to dish them out on an already reduced budget I can't afford.

Oh, , and the £22k subsidy paid to keep our after-school provision open has just been cut to zero. So no affordable childcare is a real possibility.

And because of changes to benefits entitlement, our Pupil Premium funding is dropping by thousands year on year.

Plus, energy costs are expected to rise by 30% or more next year, as well as NI contributions increasing significantly.

Our school is lucky not to have made redundancies already. Many London schools are already on their second round of "restructuring"

So when Theresa says "we will make sure that no school has its budget cut as a result of the new formula" don't believe a word.

So in addition to the 'Dementia Tax' here is another highlight from the Tory Manifesto to contemplate.