To sell antique ivory or ban it? Or, how to blacken a party by inuuendo.

Do you all understand the implications of voting for Corbyn nad McDonnell I wonder? Yet I wouldn't dream of assuming you are all selfish or thick.

Supposedly intelligent people of mature years vote Tory. No accounting for taste.

It's on a par with all the 'thick' comments for Leave voters.All from supposedly intelligent people of mature years.

Or selfish?
Is that rude too? There's some excuse if they're thick and just don't understand the implications of voting Tory!

WHY do ordinary jo's vote tory? Is it because they aspire to be wealthy and think this is the way to do it..or are they just thick.

That's the post whitewave replied to wih her Thick.

No doubt you agree durj but it's bloody rude.

Whatewave was only responding to paddyann.
Why does that make her comment pathetic? Or did you not read the whole of paddyann's post?

Paddyann, not only was he insisting it was true, but that it was in the manifesto! Hostage to fortune there.

Yes Elegran it was worth you pointing this out. If it had been said against Labour then this thread would be full of (rightful) indignation, but as it is.........

Pathetic comment ww

Thick

be honest the tories dont need anyone else blackening the party,they're doing a very good job of it themselves.Boris this weekend still insisting the £350 MILLION a week thet was on their battlebus last year is true....what planet is he on! Targetting the old the sick and the disabled ,cutting benefits while the top earners get off without any tax rises .WHY do ordinary jo's vote tory? Is it because they aspire to be wealthy and think this is the way to do it..or are they just thick.

MSM has changed. It's no longer about informing the public about what is happening and far more about grabbing the reader with often misleading headlines.

Sadly the days of reporting an issue or event with a separate analysis are over. Newspaper's were always biased to some extent depending on the owner's point of view but now the TV news is just as bad.

It is impossible to get impartial news reports from the UK media.

Indeed. You only have to read the thread on Motability cars to see a few people who have read the OP ranting about the taxpayers' money wasted "giving away" expensive cars, and rushed to agree with it before reading all the following posts explaining how the system works and how much they needed it (and how much it actually costs the taxpayer)

elegran it was ever thus

I don't think the ban on trading OLD ivory ever went through in the previous years. It may do yet, but it wasn't specifically mentioned as an election promise.

I was struck by the smooth transition of some newspapers from the general manifesto aim of "protect endangered species" to "They plan to allow the sale of ivory" which to many readers will mean that NEW elephant ivory will now be on sale.

Media emphasis is on the most sensational interpretation, and a lot of people only read headlines.

I think that if ivory becomes 'popular' with the lifting of the trading ban on 'old' ivory that it could lead to an increase in new ivory trade.
I have two small ivory brooches which I keep in my jewellery box and never wear. They were given to my mother when we lived in E Africa. She never wore them either as they are carved into elephants, which is rather sick in my opinion, but were very popular.