Is it too late for a U turn on Brexit or at least watering it down?

That'll do, Maizie, until our insider tells us the rest.

It is certainly not the first time in the last couple of weeks that I have heard that theory about TM. Is she truly out of her depth or absolutely certain about herself ?

Maizie, do you think that's why May called the election, because she had no idea what to do next and had backed herself into a corner, along with the three Brexiteers?

There are so many speculative theories flying around, dj, all quite convincing

A very early one was that she deliberately choose the three Breixteers to make a mess of it (so we could really stop in).. but she seems to be doing it all on her own now.

And this inept election campaign. Is she really running it or is it her eminences gris who are stuffing it up for her? Do you think she's deliberately trying to lose it?

It's certainly developing more interestingly than expected.

(sorry, haven't really answered your question...)

Seriously, roses.
Are you going to ask her?

that would make sense, in a weird kind of way!

Shove all the responsibility onto Corbyn and let the country rant and rail at him when it all goes wrong.

Seriously?!

Maizie, do you think that's why May called the election, because she had no idea what to do next and had backed herself into a corner, along with the three Brexiteers?
We were told she wanted to give herself a bigger mandate, but what if the reverse is true?

And it will be nice for the UK to govern itself again.

Oh, perleeeaase! We always did govern ourselves. May's article 50 white paper even said that.

If we want to go on trading with EU countries we will still have to conform to all those standards and regulations which appear to have bothered Brexiteers for so long. We'll just have to spend lots of admin time and money proving that we conform, which will add to the cost of our exports.

In view of that do you think it likely that businesses will run two production lines for everything? One for stuff conforming to EU standards and one with rubbish for the rest of the world?

And how will the loss of a large section of our financial services industry (a major export) be compensated for by all these hypothetical trade deals which the world doesn't really seem to be lining up to do with us? What are we going to export?

NZ had large Asian markets on its doorstep and was canny enough to exploit them. We have a huge market on our doorstep, too, which we are merrily waving goodbye to.

Good morning all, Wife & I are sitting in a cafe near Deansgate in Manchester with two of our nine grandchildren. The wonderful sprit of the Mancunians is all around us and most incredible, people greeted us with a smile and some with a hug as if they had known us all their lives. They all know seem so positive and desire a less prejudice society.

People were quite open saying that they had previously been somewhat radicalised by the tabloids and UKIP in to believing the EU was the cause of all our problems. That now is the wake up time, hopefully to shake off the negativity and adopt a far more positive approach to Europe. I suppose that is to be expected in this great City, for it did vote over whelming to remain in the eu.

Catch up again after the Bank Holiday, off now to see the floral tributes around this very vibrant City. Bye !

Over 40 years things have changed though and personalities have also changed. De Gaulle had his own reasons for wanting to keep the UK out and many were probable connected to the war and the fact he needed a lot of UK support.
Marine LePen has done a complete U Turn and decided the EU is a good place to be and does not think France should have a referendum!
The current European Leaders are very pro British and they have many things to offer the UK as well as the UK having things to offer them. They have included GB in their planning and thinking for years.
One of the things British politicians could learn from European politicians is manners! It is rare that an educated European is rude to people whatever their opinions - Corbyn and Starmer would fit in quite well with them.

I am sure I have a couple of bottles of New Zealand wine in my fridge.

I'm not sure about Brexit but I am hopeful. I keep hearing people say how terrible it will be what is it they think/fear/believe will happen? I mean imagine life a year post Brexit -how different will it be?

Have to say I never thought the EU was a good idea in the first place and listening to a radio programme years ago of interviews with the ministers responsible for negotiating our way into the common market i was surprised to hear several of them held deep regrets and recognised we had been stitched up and put our own businesses at a disadvantage.

Yes, NZ is small and a long way away BUT it is a country that is part of OUR commonwealth and a small country that relied heavily on our trade. We let them down and they could have suffered hugely. Not something we should forget or be proud of. Thankfully it's a thriving economy but no thanks to us.

I was just going to ask the same question WW!
Even when Farage was SO rude in the EU Parliament Guy Verhofstadt was extremely polite in the reply he gave despite the fact he cut Farage down to size.

Many reports in the UK anti EU press are not exactly true to the real events.

nice one

I bet May wishes she hadn't decided to have an election to crush the saboteurs.
Which paper do you think will be the first to show her stroking a Fox?

What were they then rose?

He is a better option than any of the 3Brexiters who make me cringe with embarrassment. Look at the way Johnson has conducted himself. At the way Fox got the WTO so wrong, and how Davis has shown utter cluelessness. That on top of their rudeness makes them eminently unsuitable.

Sorry ww but think you are wrong there, a few sneery things were said by the EU side at the start, which were then responded too.Rosetinted glasses about the EU side is a mistake.

Does that make him intransigent then perhaps?

The EU have shown nothing like the rudeness that the Brexiters have shown. The trouble is they have wrong footed themselves right from the start and this is largely down to sheer ignorance.
Sooooo embarrassing.

Weak!! you are believing the gutter press rose How do you account for the way he stands so firm in his beliefs despite the vitriol being heaped on him.

Corbyn is one of the strongest MPs around when it comes to standing firm.

Also not sure about innate good manners (of) the EU representatives.

IPad! Negotiations.

Not sure a weak Mr Nice Guy would do much for our negations though.

Davis has shown such a lack of understanding that he is an absolute embarrassment.

His rudeness will not be forgotten either.

We need someone with innate good manners but who will stand firm.

Corbyn has shown throughout the years as a MP that he stands firm in his beliefs despite all the vitriol being heaped on his head, and he does with grace and good manners.