Is it too late for a U turn on Brexit or at least watering it down?

Davis still pressing ahead with Monday. What a bloody idiot.

A weekend is a long time in politics these days whitewave - or at least I hope it is.

Portillo

May will never get Brexit through.

I have been out all day - seems I have missed things!

No WW - I'm just watching last nights This week

We are an hour ahead of course so after Question Time I was so tired I never thought of recording that one!

I thought it was pretty astounding though. Portillo has always been an ardent Brexit supporter.

One wonders whether they are at long last waking up to the impossibility of it all.

There's a petition on change.org to ask David Davis to involve other parties in Brexit negotiations.
Please sign and put it on facebook, etc.

www.change.org/p/brexit-secretary-involve-other-parties-in-brexit-talks

There is also one on 38 degrees and I have signed both.

I seem to have written this a few times now!!

The more the better, Luckygirl.
I am annoyd that at the 1922 committee meeting it was said that 38degrees should be ignored. I've signed that one, too.

Is the government website open to petitions yet, do you know?

Hasn't Macron offered a sort of 6 month let out / get ourselves back up to speed clause and decide what we really want?

Why on earth don't we take advantage of that generous offer. I'm sure it could be spun to the public.

Is it me, but I do get the impression that we are no longer hearing from Brexiters who extol,the virtues of leaving the EU. Are they falling out of love with the whole thing?

Good idea, whitewave. The fact that Mayhem created more mayhem with the election should be a warning to Brexiteers that we don't want May's form of Brexit, if we still want one at all. So let's take up Macron's offer.

No one seems to be able to tell us any definite advantages of leaving the EU. I see Gove has now said food will be more expensive - it all seems to be such a mess and TM is not looking well - she looks so tired which is understandable - she has had a really bad couple of weeks

Rachel Johnson has said that May is a victim of Grenfell Tower as well.
Hmmm....

This is the line-up for the Brexit talks.

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/brexit-negotiations-guide-talks-begin-monday/

Rachel Johnson does say some strange things. I wonder whether she is really an asset to the LDs.

No Queen's Speech next year so that Brexit to ease the way in parliament for new Brexit laws.

Only the Tories ever cancel the QS. It is called incompetence. Would have had time if they for their act together and not buggered about like they have done over the past weeks only to make matters a whole lot worse.

69% want a soft Brexit. That number will rise and rise as people begin to understand the implication of a hard Brexit.

Once this all goes through it is the poorest people who will suffer the most as prices rise more etc. All of it just to appease those who have always seen EU as a threat for some strange reason. Even if this train wreck is stopped it will cost UK more as they are saying there will be no rebate! They say you never appreciate what you have till it is gone!

Big business is begging May to rethink. They are so alarmed at what Brexit will do to the economy.

Is anyone listening?????

What sort if bubble are they living in?

I expect they all think they know better ! After all we don't need experts. It is all so very very worrying for everyone - whether or not they agree with the worries lots of us have they will experience the outcome the same as us.
Has anyone seen any BENEFIT from leaving?

It seems to me that you have only to look at who is backing/funding the hard Brexit case, and it becomes all too clear that they do not have the UKs survival at the heart if their beliefs.

Fund managers, money men and rumoured crooks have funded Brexit/hard Brexit.

Business, and academics and most MPs fund/support soft/no Brexit, together with other folk.

It is a major battle going on.

I support those who support the UK.

www.byline.com/column/22/article/1734

Not sure if these moneymen back hard brexit. They don't need to, as they get more money out of the situation as it is.