Is it too late for a U turn on Brexit or at least watering it down?

We are an hour ahead of course so after Question Time I was so tired I never thought of recording that one!

No WW - I'm just watching last nights This week

I have been out all day - seems I have missed things!

Portillo

May will never get Brexit through.

A weekend is a long time in politics these days whitewave - or at least I hope it is.

Davis still pressing ahead with Monday. What a bloody idiot.

jackofkent.com/2017/06/has-the-uk-made-a-u-turn-over-the-brexit-timetable/

A country with any sense would postpone the negotiations until they'd got themselves sorted out.

May could well lose a confidence vote (or be forced out by the Party) and tip us into another GE in the Autumn. As she refuses to do it any other way than HER way where would that leave a possible completely new government who might have a totally different 'plan' for Brexit?

But they weren't negotiating to leave the EU at the same time!

There is a 'government' in that all the national and local government bureaucracies continue to administer the law as it currently stands and all public services continue to run. But no legislation can be proposed, debated, enacted until after the Queen's Speech.

it seems to be the Queen's speech which makes the executive (formed from the majority party in Parliament at the request of the Queen) legal.

According to lawyers on twitter TM can't 'legally' start Brexit negotiations on Monday because her 'government' isn't yet 'legal' (well, that's how I'm understanding it)

The Queen 'requesting' someone to form a government may be a complete constitutional fiction for all I know. There's been a lot of discussion about whether May was 'correct' in going to the Queen before she had an agreement with the DUP.

I wonder what the Queen thinks about it all..

Countries run perfectly well with no 'governments. Belgium didn't have an elected government for 589 days a few years ago. Country didn't fall apart.

Before she does this the Palace has to be convinced she can form a government - she may not embarrass the Queen by involving her in an obviously political mess situation.

They apparently did this but you have to ask yourself if they were being a bit previous.

She did go to see the queen, the day after the election to ask if she could form a government.

So there is a government then even though TM has not been to HM to ask for permission to form one yet?

Perhaps HM will say 'No', go away and think again - or perhaps she has sent a message to that effect.

There is a government but no parliament LG, but isn't that just what TM said she wanted and why she went to the country, and she is getting away with it!

I am not sure it is actually dead Maizie - that might be better. It is rather, becoming some sort of Frankenstein's monster.

ygg that's because they have no understanding

Me. MAizieD
All they keep talking about is trade trade trade, all the other interconnectivity is ignored:-(

I find it beyond belief that the negotiations are to start with no proper government in place and no attempt at cross-party talks on the matter as people are clamouring for. They are all clowns and I just despair. I feel no trust in any of them. It is a disgrace.

I hope he has got more than his sheet of A4 by now, whitewave.

That is what a lot of comment from Europe is saying.

One German newspaper is calling this government clowns.

So Davis is off on Monday representing as yet a none existent government.

I suspect that the EU will first pin him down to an agreement on EU Nationals as that has definately been the mood music coming from Brussels.

He'll come back claiming to have scored a victory for sanity or a caring moral government or some such rubbish.

I wonder who would agree with this article:

Brexit Is Dead

A Wave of Anger Crashes over Britain
Great Britain may be an island, but economically it is the most interconnected country in Europe: The financial center in London, the country's carmakers, what's left of British industry and even the country's infrastructure. France delivers electricity, water sanitation facilities in southern England belong to Germans and large airports such as Heathrow are owned by Spaniards. One quarter of the doctors who keep afloat the NHS -- Britain's comparatively deficient health care system -- come from the Continent.

The promise of Brexit was steeped in ideology from the very beginning, a fairy tale based on dark chauvinism. The Spanish Armada, Napoleon, Hitler and now the Polish plumbers who allegedly push down wages -- when in reality they ensured that, after decades of lukewarmly dripping showers, the country's bathrooms gradually returned to functionality. Brexit was never a particularly good idea. Now, following the most recent election, Brexit is defunct. That, at least, is what a member of Theresa May's cabinet intimated last weekend. "In practical terms, Brexit is dead," an unnamed minister told the Financial Times.
www.spiegel.de/international/europe/death-of-brexit-at-the-hands-of-theresa-may-a-1152330-amp.html

Ian Dunt on the opening of the Brexit negotiations

" Hi! I represent a government that doesn't exist, sent tonsecure a policy we don't understand and which we anyway would be unable to implement"

Ian Dunt - tweet - interesting to read that the media is no longer talking about "when" we leave the EU, but "if" we leave the EU

Unfortunately the millionaire tax dodgers were able to use their wealth and influence to con a lot of poor people into thinking a "leave" vote was in their interest.

ukhumanrightsblog.com/2017/06/14/breverse-politically-problematic-but-legally-possible-by-rosie-slowe/

According to this human rights blog it is possible to reverse Brexit for various reasons, but we need to do it quickly, otherwise we might have to leave then reapply.

I see Lord Bridges resigned - Brexit minister - because he has decided that Brexit is totally impossible.