Is it too late for a U turn on Brexit or at least watering it down?

dj - your Nordic link is fascinating - I have been saying this for ages. Tories trumpet what they call the "poor housekeeping" of Corbyn's policies, but they do not have to look far to see that some of the most successful countries (both economically and socially) embrace his ideas as being the mainstream.

How can we make the government take this plain truth on board?

But WHY does no one have the courage to say that a million people were the difference who voted to remove us from the EU and the whole thing is costly, damaging and ridiculous. No politician who had clout in the GE came out and stood up for us remaining - the best was that there would be a vote on the deal! They all seem to be running scared.
There is some report out which says that to replace something like 1% of EU trade will take 20+% of trade with the rest of the world. Airbus are talking of looking for another base to take over from the UK ones - thousands of jobs.

Harvard report shows that business is extremely worried about all the extra paper work and regulations that they will have to deal with on top of the existing stuff.

Pity no one listened before the vote

Businesses beginning to panic about Brexit

They are ditching most of their manifesto because of the vote.

So i look forward to them ditching a hard Brexit and approach the whole subject in a sensible and balanced manner

'I am glad to hear there are companies speaking out but I have a horrible feeling that if anyone is to save us from our own idiocy it will be the EU itself not wanting the UK to be too damaged.'...but then everyone will say 'see, the EU [aka the enemy]did need us more than we needed them'....

www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/jonas-fossli-gjers/jeremy-corbyn-mainstream-scandinavian-social-democrat

This is interesting.

I think they will do anything for power so rather than giving a proper opinion they try to read the runes Cindersdad and tell the electorate what they think they want to hear.

I agree with you that it was a dreadful error of judgement and that the EU isn't - by any means - perfect.

I am glad to hear there are companies speaking out but I have a horrible feeling that if anyone is to save us from our own idiocy it will be the EU itself not wanting the UK to be too damaged.

... and these people offer themselves as our leaders

Positive thinking, whitewave. If she carries on being a robot she will burn out, blow up in a most dramatic way in front of the DUP leader.

A new name for the new party - MayDUP, courtesy of The Last Leg.

If we ever do

I think the same Cindersdad.
Most politicians know it is a bad move and will do untold damage to UK and yet for the sake of a million votes are adamant about going ahead with this foolish plan. It will take years to get over the damage we are doing to ourselves.

I regard the referendum as a dreadful error of judgement as do most of my friends. What I can't understand is why our political leader cannot see what Brexit is doing to the country.

The facts were never properly explained. Most people who voted out did so for reasons that were nothing to do with the EU. There are faults with the EU that do need to be addressed but walking away is not the answer.

This was known. Good for the businesses making it clear.

Snap, whitewave.

10,000 staff and supporting 100,000 jobs.
Can a Brexiteer tell us why that is a price worth paying?

10000 direçt and 100000 indirect. Hope the Brexiters think its worth it

Well here's some food for thought.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/airbus-threatens-to-move-jobs-over-brexit-lcwm7mjng

No you didn't summarise in any way what I had said Jane and yet again you are suggesting I said something along the lines of "all Tories are bastards and all socialists are angels" - I did not nor did I say anything like it.

Convention says that FFS is shorthand for word that are considered to be swearing and they were in a post aimed at me so yes, you did swear at me.

I did not swear at you GG. I summarised the various unpleasant things you have written about Tories in as few words as possible.
Others can read your posts and mine and draw their own conclusions.

I have never, ever, said anything near "all Tories are bastards and all socialists are angels" Jane10 and I totally reject any attempt to paint me as that person. I have no idea which people on here are saints or angels and would guess that most are a mixture of the two. I would also guess that many whose politics I would disagree with think that their politics would be 'a good thing'

I can see no reason for you to post about me in the way that you did nor can I see any reason for you to swear at me. I will continue to treat such posts with the contempt they deserve and ignore them but when you add fuel to the fire and add totally unsustainable comments just to justify you original post, that I cannot ignore. Lies are lies Jane and I would rather you didn't tell them about me.

Good for Davidson, now let's hope she fights just as hard for retaining the HR act,

True! Hopefully, MPs would respect the views of all their constituents whatever their sexuality. However, given the very public views of the DUP on LGBT rights, I would imagine that any LGBT MP would find it very difficult to discuss anything with the DUP, knowing that the person sitting across the table thinks they're disgusting and some aberration of nature. Ruth Davidson has said she would put her right to her relationship before party and country.

dd LGBT politicians. Bit of a tight rope as their LGBT voting public won't be happy.

with quite a few minnows swimming around too

Whitewave I entirely agree with you on GGs right to express her opinions. Something to do with democracy...
However, life isn't as black and white as all Tories are bastards (summary of typical posts) and all socialists are angels. People, voters are complex which is why I was saying that people from all parties need to work together. Its definitely not going to be easy though! Who'd be a politician? Its a shark tank!