Democracy hahahaha

10 DUP MPs
19 gay Tory MPs.
Only 5 of them need to vote against Mayhem.

Polly Toynby -The Good Friday Agrrement an internationalist agreement is lodged with the United Nations, and requires that the British Government remains entirely neutral between the unionists and nationalists.

The Tories are for purely Party political purposes tearing this up and playing fast and lose with peace in part if their constituency. It is disgusting

Watch the video on Liverpool in this link.
Loyalists attacking an Irish pub.

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/11/these-are-dups-minimum-demands-enough-to-destroy-the-gf-agreement/

Hasn't lasted long, has it?

'Theresa May has committed the biggest blunder in British political history. That is not an exaggeration. I have thought hard about this over the last forty-odd hours and, terrible though some were, I can genuinely think of no other that was this bad. She needlessly called a General Election late in April, in an attempt to dig a very deep hole in which to bury Jeremy Corbyn. But when she tried to push him into the hole, he simply stepped to one side, causing May to over-balance and fall into it herself. Somehow, from a starting lead of twenty points in the polls, facing a deeply divided and dysfunctional Opposition Labour Party, and with the confident expectation of winning a one-hundred-seat majority in the House of Commons, May managed to lose the smaller majority she already had, and is now trapped in a Hung Parliament.

With this mistake, Theresa May has turned herself into the greatest laughing stock in Europe. While polite noises of concern have been expressed by leaders in the European Union over the fresh confusion Thursday's Election result is likely to cause, there have also been plenty of contemptuous noises. One cannot help suspecting that the contemptuous noises - especially from Radoslaw Sikorski or Guy Verhofstadt - are the more truthful ones.'

The critique archives.

Ginny - I think you are not alone in feeling angry. Deciding it is a good idea to try and obliterate any opposition in a democracy years before we needed to had to have election gives everyone reason to be angry.

Cardiff, just one point (initially), although there are many. After 1945, the Labour government nationalised key industries, such as railways, steel and electricity. I wonder how many years it would have taken to take these industries forward after the war if it was left to "the market". Some industries require long-term investment to improve services over time. This long-term investment may not be profitable in the short-term, so without government intervention they may suffer from lack of long term - or what seems to be currently called 'slow' investment.

There was a long period - up to Thatcher - when there was a consensus between the parties that a mixed economy - some government run, some privately run - would work for this country. The far-right then decided to change things. This does not mean they were right.

I am fervently hoping that period is in declinegg and we will get back to the inclusive kinder social democracy our parents fought for and constructed.

My flag is waving and there are shouts of hear, hear, for your post whitewave.

ever onwards ever upwards - so much more to do though

We seem to be in a minority though.

Labour membership has now passed 800,000.
150,000 new members since the election.

It seems to me that the current position re TM and the Tories cannot be sustainable. The potential damage to the GF Agreement is one important factor, amongst many others. They will surely have no choice but to call (yet) another GE. What an almighty shambles! In my 70 years, I have never seen the like.

A poll by Survation from yesterday suggests that support for Labour is rising.

Jeremy Corbyn must be crapping it in case his bluff is called and he actually is landed with having to take some kind of responsibility economically and fulfill all his election promises. Omnishambles is indeed the word for this election result.

dd that's why the Tories will do anything to avoid a GE .

They've got to take ownership of this chaos and reap the result

jane well done for trying

No, Jeremy Corbyn is quite happy about it, Jane. He can wait until the tories get even further in the mire.

Corbyn didn't look as though he was crapping himself on Marr this morning.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/06/11/jeremy-corbyn-a-pm-in-waiting-who-can-afford-to-wait-but-can-we/

You think so Jane? I don't know if you saw the interview with him but I don't think your, yet again, delightful language would fit how he looked this morning.

I would just like him and the LP to be given the chance.

Whitewave

So funny to see the Conservatives with the knives out after all their ranting about Labour being divided
Cardiff when the East coast franchise was handed back and run by the gov it made £13mill. The companies running the franchises receive huge gov subsidies. It's simply a ridiculous situation.

I think JC is chomping at the bit, he would love to get in and sort out the mess the tories have caused.

A right old mess she has created. The Brexit negotiations need us to have a strong team yet our friends across the water will be wondering what will happen no matter what decisions are made. It is the wrong time to change a PM yet she is now damaged goods; this will almost certainly lead to another election. Help! Save us from all those stupid politicians.

trisher: that example is used to justify state ownership without understanding the circumstances. The company formed to run it had none of the capital costs to consider - they just ran the services. The subsidies now being paid are still less that the losses incurred by BR. There is no easy answer. The rail unions would love the whole system back under government control as they would then have so much more to threaten everyone with.

dj Careful of fake news. That video from Liverpool is old - probably from 2008.