Brexit: On a scale of 1 to 10, where do you stand?

You are so right about that, Maggie.
It was so obvious from the way that May is being treated tonight.

3,then, 1 now. I could see problems vis a vis EU bureaucrats having too much power. Now I just feel very sad that instead of being inside battling to improve the things we disagree with, we're going to be outside with no influence or support, People are being hurt, we're becoming smaller, and there's nothing we can do about it.

1 then and 0.5 now.
Particularly when someone who voted to leave can think more of cheap booze than taking it seriously.
Hate to tel you, roses, but it will be a lot more expensive in two years time.

The nearest we come to the Dunkirk Spirit now is when we go over there to stock up on booze.

Strangely enough, the very elderly - the ones who really did experience the second world war - were more in favour of Remain than those a bit younger. That's probably because they appreciate what a closer Europe has brought over the last 70 years.

When I was sitting with my LibDem rosette outside a polling booth recently, one chap came up to me, told me he was 96 and had fought in the war, hugged me and thanked me for carrying on the good work. I was very embarrassed and said I felt I hadn't done anything, but I was quite touched. I don't know whether he was at Dunkirk, but he could have been.

1 then and a definite 1 or less now. If I were younger I would be selling and emigrating.There will never be the "great" in Britain ever again.

The Dunkirk Spirit durhamjen referred to the brave volunteers as well as the RN
Who went over to rescue the soldiers trapped on the French beach, it doesn't mean the spirit of the soldiers themselves ( very dispirited I should think.)
Small boats, fishing boats etc all took part.It was a fine example of pulling together
For the good of the country.

Prices have risen for a couple of reasons. One of the main reasons is that the pound has fallen as a DIRECT result of the referendum, so imports cost more.

Don't start me on the state pension!

I was probably a 5 and I am now a 4. I voted to remain in the EU, although I am aware that it is deeply flawed and needs to be taken apart and rebuilt. I was also so disgusted by the lying duplicity of the Brexit campaign, I could not have ever brought myself to fall to the gutter levels their campaign made it necessary to fall to in order to vote Brexit.

Since then I have moved closer to Remain. Everything I have seen since, including the results of the recent election, suggest to me that we will be coming out of the Brexit negotiations with very poor terms indeed, or will be forced to accept a hard Brexit and both will be deeply economically damaging.

State pension has risen, but the cost of utilities and council tax has risen more. That's not allowing for the rise in food prices.

Quite sad, Berdie, that you think the Dunkirk spirit should get us out of this.
Two world wars? Europe joined together so that there would be no more world wars. Youy want to take us back? How sad.
My dad was at Dunkirk. He didn't appreciate the Dunkirk spirit.

* daphnedill*, I obviously don't know your personal circumstances, but my state pension has risen over the last year, prices do change, but I'm sorry that cannot be put down to Brexit. We fought two world wars, and prospered, I'm sure we will do the same again this time..

berdie Yes, prices do fluctuate, but that's taken into account when inflation is calcultated. Prices are going up an other indicators of the economy aren't looking good. Osborne and Carney did not predict that the sky would fall in. They thought the effect would be immediate, which in the case of the exchange rate was correct. A year later, they have been proved right - and we haven't even left the EU yet!

When the happy, clappy brigade come to their senses, they'll realise what's going on.

If you have any suggestions for a good Brexit, please speak up, because everyone else has drawn a blank.

* Wheniwasyourage*, the price of goods fluctuates all year round, George Osbourne, the Governor of the Bank of England all predicted the sky would fall in prior to the referendum, and it didn't happen. As I said before, David Davis and Michel Barnier are old "sparring partners ", they and not the doom and gloom brigade, are the ones to negotiate a good Brexit, beneficial to both the UK and the EU.

1 then, 1 (or less) now. It's obvious by now that prices are going up (we always take the same amount out of the bank at a time, and need to do it more often than this time last year) and the pound is down.

The referendum, which should never have been called IMHO, should, as Granny23 says, have been organised so that a certain level of majority was required to get us to leave. The campaign was a disgrace, with lies being told, self-serving politicians aiming for power and not enough effort put in to refute the lies.

Smileless2012, your right, I would say 10, we do not need Mark Carney, Gina Miller, Richard Branson et al. A lot of us on this site, were born in the "Forties", we saw what one German Chancellor tried to do in Europe, the time has come to allow David Davis and Michel Barnier to reach an agreement on Britains exit from the Eu. If you have any doubt's, just remember that 1in 7 cars made in Germany, ends up in a British showroom, that should really stir Mrs. Merkel into to a more reasonable negotiating position, and of course her lapdog Macron will do as he is told.

Still a 10 from me regarding my vote to leave but had I known the extent of division that the vote to leave has resulted in I might have voted to remain.

Naively perhaps I assumed that which ever way the vote went, the country would pull together, accept the democratic will of the majority, in or out, and work for the benefit of the country as a whole.

If we don't get a good deal IMO it will have a lot to do with the internal fighting that's been going on ever since the referendum. It seems to me that for some remainers, they want it to be a disaster just so they can say 'we told you so'; is that really more important than the future for our country?

Referring to an earlier post of daphnedil's I think the irony is that France and Germany see that changes within the EU need to be made because we voted to leave.

I agree varian that the Referendum result is a spurious democratic decision which was based on a simplistic Remain or Leave vote when there was very little understanding of what was entailed. Prior to the Referendum I could see problems with the EU but thought it would be far better to belong and work within the EU with our mutual values and interests. We live in an interdependent world and I think to go it alone with the trading, economic and security risks, is extremely foolish. I feel more confident as time goes by, and when I see the way the economy is going and the shambolic state of the Government, that my decision to remain was correct.

No problem, Whitewave. Been there, done that

1 then and 1 now. I am very sad to be leaving the EU

Bluebell,where would you move to?
Daphne, what does all those o's mean please?

10

We are being totally held prisoners by the likes of Dacre and Murdoch and of course Farage and his vastly wealthy elite/establishment figures.

That was to grandmaKT

I absolutely agree, but the problem is political, the two largest parties, including so many who voted remain, seem to think that leaving has to happen, no matter how bad the terms or how much damage it might do.

We are all to be sacrificing so much because of this spurious "democratic decision" . Everyone knows that it was very close and based on lies , incomplete information and false assumptions but no one dare challenge it for fear of the scurrilous press and their "enemies of the people" headlines.

Oh maize and mama if it is me at fault, i will be totally honest to say that post was bunged on as i sat down after being out all day. I quickly skim read and made the obvious incorrect assumption that the imposition of more conditions was being stated by a Brexiter. So sorry to confuse and that will teach me to read the thread properly. Ive slapped my wrist