Brexit: On a scale of 1 to 10, where do you stand?

Oh yes, Tegan all the EU officials are wonderful upstanding individuals
'Thank goodness the EU are fighting their corner'........errr, why exactly?
Nobody, including the EU can be totally prepared, all they can do is take one matter at a time and thrash it out to the mutual satisfaction of both sides.
The negotiations have not been a year in the making, they have only just started.

They're not being petty. We made commitments and we can't just walk away from them with comments like 'go whistle'. We're over a year into this and nothing has been achieved. We can't even get started because this government can't decide on how decently [or not] we should treat EU people living in this country. Thank goodness the EU are fighting their corner.The brexit lot [including toss of a coin Boris] have gone into this all bluster and with no substance; totally unprepared.

That's why they want such an enormous 'divorce settlement' - they'll miss our contributions to their budget.

Indeed Roses. We are 'drowning'.

I get the feeling many Remainers would actually like that scenario so they could say "Told you so!"

As you say, we are in early stages of negotiating an exit plan.

Nothing positive will come out of Brussels regarding our departure. Why would it? Brussels and member countries of the EU are losing us, and it has sent shock-waves through the organisation. Expect negativity from Brussels, and Remainers on Gransnet!

Maizie D - It's no good, paddyann. I have got the impression over the past year that Brexiteers (and not just the ones on here) absolutely DO NOT CARE.

Oh here we go again. How terribly patronising.

I care very much about my country and considered the options before voting.

I was an 8 then. No I am firmly a 10. I am so glad we are getting out of that sinking ship. The future is bright.

May was daft in calling an election when she did. The ensuing chaos is settling down however. EU bigwigs have dined out on it, as have Remainers, but what has become more evident to me is the pettiness of EU bureaucrats and their new found enmity of the UK, one of the biggest EU financial contributors.

There will be no easy agreement, but that is to be expected.

Drowning? Already?! Hardly anything has been negotiated as yet.Wish posters would get a grip.

I am afraid it will be too late before the full reality hits home. I only hope for everyone' sake that we Remainers are proved to be wrong and it all goes swimmingly - however at the mo I feel we are drowning!

It must be great actually being a confirmed believer and so confident that things will be fine - I only wish I could be like that too but I have no confidence at all in the clowns who sit round the cabinet table and decide our fate!

why on earth are we leaving 500 000 000 thats FIVE HUNDRED MILLION potential customers when we have nothing sorted to replace them

It's no good, paddyann. I have got the impression over the past year that Brexiteers (and not just the ones on here) absolutely DO NOT CARE.

I voted remain as did 62% of my countrymen/women .I'm still remain 100% we NEED immigrants and why on earth are we leaving 500 000 000 thats FIVE HUNDRED MILLION potential customers when we have nothing sorted to replace them.Other countries aren't lining up to make trade deals with us despite the hype last year and with the threat of rising prices .that we already see.while austerity continues we're frankly headed for disaster.

Not you, Welshwife.

www.niesr.ac.uk/publications/euref-missing-debate#.V3UKvfkrK00

This might make you change your mind. There are no trade agreements to do with services. 80% of our trade with the EU is in services.

I was fully to remain at the time of the vote and even more so now! No other countries have indicated they wish to leave since UK have voted - they see the mess and realise they are better within. Many of the countries - France, Germany, Holland, Belgium are even stronger Remainers than before - even Marine Le Pen has said she no longer thinks France should leave!!

Good post newnanny and I feel the same.More sure now than I ever was .

9 at referendum and 10 + now. The more I hear of how EU are going to punish us and how inflexible they are in negotiations the more I want out.

I think of it a bit like a bad marriage. The more I was ordered to do things in a certain way the more likely I would be to want to leave. The EU will be inflexible in their negotiations as they are terrified other countries might follow us out. If it was such a wonderful club why would anyone want to leave? Why would they need to bully countries to stay? The one size fits all does not work for diverse economies imho. The EU have already said they don't know how they will fill the net contribution hole that UK will leave. Only 4 countries make net contribution the others all take out. When UK gone other 3 net contributors do not want to pay more and other countries demanding they still get to take same out so not very cohesive in EU.

Facts seem to be thin on the ground in some quarters!

In what way, exactly, is it a shambles? Would like some facts, please.

EU is a shambles? And UK government is what, exactly?

9 then. 10 now

9. We must think long-term, and the EU is a shambles. In a few years we will be glad we made the right decision...leave.

And the daft things is many farmers voted to leave as they had been led to believe they would be better off!
I would say that it is no good crying now but of course the country's food etc is reliant on them and also they are good wardens of the countryside. It is criminal the way people were lied to and persuaded to vote against their best interests.

Private Eye has an agricultural column and for over a year the concern about how smaller farmers are going to manage once the CAP payments stop has been very worrying. The government originally said it would continue the payments, but there's all sorts of mixed messages coming out now. No decision has been made which means DEFRA is not going to be ready to pay what ever is finally decided. It's looking like farmers will end up with less money, so those who can are diversifying, but for many don't have that option. Many farmers depend on the CAP money and simply will not survive if the payments stop, even on a temporary basis.

DEFRA ended up owing farmers a lot of money a few years ago because it couldn't get its act together (can't remember what it was about). You'd think it would be on the ball this time.

Good

Corbyn not being criticised here.

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I understand from our local NFU insurance agent that farmers in our area (a Leave area) were pretty much split 50/50 over Leave/Remain. The few that I know bury their heads in their hands and groan when Brexit is mentioned.

It's all very well complaining about the CAP subsidy going to landowners rather than the tenant farmers who work the land but we don't know if the money is passed on to them or not.

The Crown Estates belong to the state, not the monarch. We went into this in some depth a while ago. George III (as I recall) surrendered them to state control in exchange for an income.

In what way has Corbyn given up his principles for party politics?