Brexit: On a scale of 1 to 10, where do you stand?

Strange reasoning, dbDB77.

The UK has done well out of the EU so we have to leave because other European countries haven't?

Depressed wages, stretched public services and the housing crisis are the result of our own domestic policies, not of being in the EU.

As for jobs, I live in the North East where one of the major employers, Nissan, is here because of our access to the EU market. Thousands of people in employment here have to thank the EU for the fact that they have jobs. If leaving the EU makes it difficult for Nissan to continue to trade with the EU, with its present advantages, it'll be off like a shot. As I understand it, Nissan and the businesses which supply it here, are worth some 30,000 jobs to the local economy. I'll never understand why the daft b*ggers in Sunderland voted to leave with so much at stake.

So how does UK's leaving the EU make life better in Italy, Greece or Spain?

In any case, Greece's growth has now overtaken the UK, which is now bottom of the pile.

Please provide evidence of depressed wages. EU immigrants add more the the Treasury than they take. Maybe "left behind" British should show the same kind of initiative and energy as EU immigrants have.

Phew, roses - thought I'd never see you in the same light again!

Try again. .....hear hear!

Here here dbDB ??

Jenpax - glad to hear you've done so well out of the EU - but perhaps you should consider those who have not done so well, and instead of calling them xenophobes or deluded maybe look at it from their point of view - depressed wages, stretched public services & a housing crisis. And maybe think of the youngsters in Italy where you want to buy a house - 35% youth unemployment - or Greece 45% or Spain 42%. Life is not as rosy for everyone throughout the EU as it is for you. Yet still the EU refuses to reform.

OMG. It's been stated that EU citizens are welcome to stay if we are given the same rights. Talks will only 'break down' if the EU are unreasonable. Then the blame likes squarely with them!

Welsh, if this is making you ill then I suggest you stop reading about it all and get on with your life.

Yes - I would be worried about the stamina of going on a march.

I too am in some anti Brexit groups - several of the ones I am on have linked up so you see posts from some of the migrant people who are worried sick about their family position after Brexit.
I see there is some report out about how Brexit is making people ill - can't remember where I saw it this morning or I would do a link. I know it is doing me no good and I often cannot sleep worrying about it and what will happen to us if our rights don't remain the same - even though our good French friends assure us they don't think France will do anything awful to us?

www.the3million.org.uk
If the talks break down and there is no deal all EU citizens whether in EU or UK could be in a worse position than they are now.

Won't be a problem Jalima.

Probably the same ones I am in ?We are the 48% etc

I'm in lots of protest groups, but they are not exclusively for grannies.

Absolutely GillT57 it's how I feel too I get so so angry about all the rubbish spouted about taking back control etc? Most of the input from the EU has been to our benefit if it were not for th EU we would not have the levels of workers rights we now have sure as hell if Government and big business got to choose we would have none! Besides the numbers of people who stupidly voted on immigration grounds! Here in Eastbourne we have a lovely thriving EU community of residents bringing different cultures and cuisines to the town I love it! I love that I could consider buying a house in Italy if I wanted (something I was considering) and now this looks doubtful instead we are trapped on an small island with xenophobes (though I accept that not all Brexiteers are xenophobic just deluded?)

Do we have to march?

Just thinking feet ...

I am all up for the Grannies protest group!

It's hard enough to convince one or two younger people I know daphnedill

gill that is exactly how I feel and add to that fearful.

Here here!!

Maybe we should start a Grannies for Remain pressure group.

me too jenpax if possible, I am angrier now than I was when the result happened. When I see the bloody mess that lies and ignorance has led to, the impact it will have on my life and of my adult children, it makes me bitterly angry. Our lives have been changed, likely for the worse, for no good reason and because a very small majority of those who voted chose to vote leave. If this had been a vote by a trade union on whether to strike or not, it would have been invalid due to the percentage. A history of in fighting within two branches of the Tory party caused this, and now we have a divided country instead. Bloody marvellous job by Cameron.

Passionate Remainer ? I couldn't be more pro remain if I tried. So a definite 1
To be honest Brexit has left me a mixture of angry and depressed?
I can't forgive the leave voters and am extremely angry that I and my family are to be dragged out of the EU and have our rights to live and work in otherEU countries stripped from us,as well as angry that several good friends from Germany, Denmark, Italy and France now face an uncertain future after having raised families here and contributed to the economy and culture of the country.
Both my late parents (baby boomers) were pro EU and I know if they were around now would be heart broken. My mother was partly French and partly German so I can only imagine what she would say??

Perhaps I should have said minus 10 now. I have always been a Remainer and feel even stronger now than we we voted. This whole thing has brought out a lot of nastiness in people. I've found many people unaccepting of others point of view.

1 then, 1 now, 1 back in the 70s when we first voted. Probably 1+++ now.

Jalima Read some of the 1973 small print. It was always intended that there would be closer union, not just a trading agreement.

What I find interesting about the Guardian article is the almost complete reversal of people's stances, which isn't entirely for rational reasons.

The trade unions were against joining the Common Market, because they wanted to protect jobs. Incidentally, they were also against immigration in the 1950s, for the same reason. Consequently, Labour Party supporters were anti-Common Market and I think Corbyn is a throwback to those times. I also think that it's why the Labour Party is so conflicted othe issue and is proving to be the party's Achilles' Heel.

The reason we import coal is because to meet EU (and British) standards on emission control, power stations have to burn coal that is low in sulphur. Coal from UK mines has a high sulphur content so we import from countries like South Africa, and (I think) Australia because it is low in sulphur.

That's right, and we did import from Poland too to meet standards - and because it was cheaper to import.

To meet standards we now import wood pellets from America - which is not as environmentally friendly as we may like to think.