Aimed at the Wrong People?

Yes, trisher, that's how mine got to see the bands.
I wouldn't have called them deprived, or even poor, but their friends did it when we lived in Hampshire, so they did, too.

I was told by DH2, (who definitely wasn't wealthy when he went to Glastonbury) that you have to walk several miles with all your camping gear to reach the site, so regular attenders go with cheap gear that can be ditched. On a typical festival weekend, everything ends up too wet and mud-caked to ever be used again, and twice as heavy as it was at the start of the weekend! Not condoning it, but just explaining the reasoning as it was put to me.

As for Corbyn preaching at the wrong audience, surely it's a good thing that a politician doesn't just aim to appeal to a single demographic.

Lets not forget that one way poor kids get to see festivals is by clearing up afterwards. It isn't ideal and it isn't well paid but there are compensations. Mine did it and complained loudly about the way some of the supervisors treated them, but if no-one had left a mess they wouldn't have gone at all.
Surely it is these people that Corbyn needs to win over isn't it? Isn't the situation that Labour needs more middle class southern votes to win an election?

It was only a few weeks ago that Corbyn and the Labour Party were accused of concentrating too much on the "have nots". Now it seems he is being criticised for the opposite. Let's face it, whatever he does will be pulled apart by some people.

I expect the older people dancing around at Glastonbury are a good deal healthier and happier than those kill joys sitting at home grumbling.

Oh for an edit button - my point is that by speaking at Glastonbury, Corbyn n was hitting his target audience,
My 30 plus children and their friends have all caught Corbyn mania. Not because of the offer of student fees being abolished, they're all still paying off student loans alongside mortgage/rent/childcare etc. It's because they want a fairer society.

The latest youguv analysis suggests that higher the level of education, the more likely the individual is to vote Labour.
Yes roses, many do complain about the level of tax they pay. Amongst my family and friendship group, everyone would be fine with paying more tax to fund better public services. The evidence fro Northern European countries who pay high taxes, is they have better public services than we do. They also use less illegal drugs, have lower prison population and lower rates of teenage pregnancy.
As for the number of tents etc left behind, I agree if you take a tent, either take it home or drop it off at recycling place. Manchester's tent city was set up by homeless people but soon dismantled so I don't see giving tents to the homeless as a solution.

Sorry ana?

So's that - 'I love a good jig'...

Blimey * nellie* don't you dance at parties or dinner dances or even tea dances

I love a good jig. That is a terribly ageist remark you know

I only saw a little of this jamboree on the news, and while the music is not and never has been my c.o.t, The sight of those elderly rockers (some nearly my age!!) is almost sad! Surely there must be be younger talent?!! Poor souls, I hope they weren't too exhausted! Nothing more yukky than an elderly hippy!!
I totally agree with the amount of garbage left by these festivals goers, all to be picked up by someone else. Surely these middle class folk have been taught to clear up after themselves or does the cleaning lady do it where they come from? I thought they cared deeply for the planet?
Very perplexing!

Not strange at all, I don't watch Glasto, it has become full of older singers and bands and sound quality always seems poor.
The clip I saw of McDonnell was on the news, and I certainly wasn't watching it willingly. just didn't get away in time.

What seems strange is that you are completely ignoring the matter of debris left behind by the entitled types that attended the festival.

And you so keen on supporting the poor and deprived...

Not at all, kittylester. The more Tories listen to John McDonnell the better. Don't you think it seemed strange that that was all roses saw of Glastonbury?

Some is recycled but first it all has to be collected. There are homeless shelters all over the country, how difficult would it be for the festival goers to take it to their nearest shelter, after all they carried it all to the site why can't they carry it away.

Do they just throw it all away then?

According to Glastonbury Festival website it costs around £780,000 to clear up the rubbish after a festival. If the festival goers took their rubbish home, or donated unwanted tents, sleeping bags etc. to a homeless shelter, a large part of that money could go to the charities the festival supports.

Is it forbidden to listen to him unless one supports him? Surely it's a good thing to listen to all views however misguided they might be!

Why were you watching McDonnell anyway? Just so you could criticise?

Is that all you saw, roses?
Never mind.

I have a cup of mint tea in front of me, having just come back from the hairdresser's.

From the bit I saw on TV, which was McDonnell speaking, the applause was weak considering how many thousands were there, so not all festival goers were fans of either man.

The video said that it was left by about a quarter of the people there. That leaves three quarters who are responsible people.
As far as the fence is concerned, if my kids were there I would be pleased at that amount of securtiy after what happened in Manchester.

I already have the kettle on * rig*

Yep another goady thread based on so many false premises it's best just to go and have a cup of tea - just my opinion of course,

Is it alright that moany threads are exclusively left wing ones? we have so many of those!