Food Banks

Because they want to. Because they don't like JRM and won't allow that he can say something they can agree with. EVER.

There you go, DJ, misinterpreting again! I have not aligned myself with JRM. I've pointed out that saying he finds food banks unplifting is incorrect. That's all.

And I've added that the rest of what he said sticks in my craw as much as it does in anyone else's.

If that's "aligning" then the word aligning has a new meaning.

Just about the whole of the reading population has misinterpreted it, then Baggs.
Why do you think that is?

Language is important. I can understand a person's politics (and disagree with most of it) without misinterpreting or finding fault with every sentence s/he says.

Some gransnetters seems to have a problem with this, which I find baffling.

Why are you determined to align yourself with Rees-Mogg, Baggs?
I doubt whether he has your analytical skills.

I remember teaching that in study skills, Anya.

I know a gransnetter (and I expect there are many more I don't know) who helps out at food banks. I find that helpfulness in people uplifting and it seems JRM finds charitableness (for whatever reason) uplifting too.

I do not find the need for food banks uplifting nor have I ever said anything that could be so interpreted. I don't think JRM has either.
He said some other things that are politically misleading but he didn't say that.

I haven't decided you are bad at all. I said what you said is petty.
You are the one who is always telling us to separate the person from what they are saying.
Unfortunately, with Rees-Mogg, that is very hard to do, because what he says informs his politics.
If he really wants to know about foodbanks, rather than trotting out Tory policy, he would take up that foodbank's offer.

That's now three times I've agreed that the politics behind the need for food banks stinks.

Which part of "I don't think JRM's politicking has been misinterpreted" didn't you understand, anya?

There's a difference in being 'precise' as you call it Baggs and totally missing the point. If you insist on simply reading precisely 'on the lines' you miss the inferences 'between the lines' and 'beyond the lines' - an advanced reading skill I'm sure you were taught at one time.

As JRM supports a system of less taxation, less welfare payments, less government support and less NHS support, of course he approves of Food banks, as far as he is concerned that's the ideal Tory state. Probably intends to bring back Workhouses as well.
When I was bringing up my 3 sons I dreaded sudden big bills coming in, so I know what it's like to be walking a tight rope, I was lucky I had a supportive family. It's disgusting that in such a rich country we have people who can't afford to eat.

Yes, well, you would because you've decided I'm bad and nothing I say will change that. That attitude says more about you than about me though.

As I said, I don't think JRM's politicking has been misinterpreted.

Actually, Baggs, I don't find what you say pedantic or precise, I call it petty.

I think you'll find charities do agree that charitable giving is uplifting, dj.

I don't suppose they think the need for charitable giving is uplifting. Neither do I, nor you. I think most people would agree about that.

" A Cornish food bank has said that some children in Cornwall are literally facing starvation, as it called for a welfare system that does more to help struggling families before they reach crisis point.

The Camborne Pool and Redruth foodbank, which helps low-income households in one of the most deprived regions in the country, hands out 10,000 meals to hard-up households every month.

Donovan Gardner, who works at the foodbank, says he is often struck by the severe plight faced by families who are struggling to afford food for their children.

Mr Gardner said: “We know there are children out there starving and that really does hurt." "

I am sure these people working here find it very uplifting, although they can probably find other more suitable words for it.

Be as pedantic or precise as you like, Baggs.
Charities don't agree with you.

Do you think he should go and work in his local foodbank, so he can meet some of these charitable workers and even be one himself?
Do you think he should really find out about foodbanks and how and why the people are sent to them?

He said that the reason they are used more is because the Tories have ensured that jobcentres tell people about them.
When Labour were in power, there were fewer than 100 foodbanks. Now there are over 2000.

Fewer than 5% of people are sent there by jobcentres, so he got that wrong, didn't he?

Bet someone comes along and calls me pedantic again. Nope, just precise.

I think this part has been misinterpreted:
“To have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are,”

What he is saying is uplifting is charitable giving which, in addition, can also be called "Christian" (though it's just good in my view and doesn't belong to any religion).

I don't think the political part of what he said has been misinterpreted.

I don't think the bit you quoted has been misinterpreted, farnorth. I'll have to look up the bit I thought was misinterpreted so I can quote it exactly.

My grandson and I were reading the i this morning, and he came upon the article.
He said, "Did he really say that?"
When told he had, at first he wouldn't believe me. Then he said, "But isn't he supposed to be a Christian? That's not a very Christian thing to say, is it? People don't go to foodbanks because they want to."

I then showed him the Guardian article where charities were calling him unchristian.

Foodbank in his own constituency as well, FarNorth.
Perhaps he'll then have time to go home and change his own baby's nappy.

“Of course food banks are wonderful but I think Mr Rees-Mogg has missed the point here, the point is there should not be a need for them in modern Britain."

Quote from a food bank volunteer who has challenged Mr Rees Mogg to work a shift in a food bank.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/09/15/after-rees-mogg-said-food-banks-that-couldnt-help-the-starving-were-uplifting-hes-challenged-to-work-in-one/

Actually, the Trussel Trust research shows that the percentage of referrals from Job Centres have not increased - but the sanctions policy they implement certainly has.