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M0nica Thu 29-Jun-17 09:10:59

At various times this has come up on GN and inevitably there has been the occasional member who has peddled the usual urban myths about some families living off Food Bank supplies and even selling the food supplied and the majority of customers not really needing it.

Finally, there has been some serious research into the issue and it shows just how desperately poor and, some quite literally starving, the vast majority of Food Bank clients are.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40431701

GillT57 Thu 29-Jun-17 15:08:34

Yes indeed NannyMcPhu and these stories get spread as if they are true, thus making going to a food bank even more of a trial for those who have to use one. I think we should be more concerned about who is using them, and more concerned by the fact that people need to use them at all. Bloody shameful.

NannyMcPhU Thu 29-Jun-17 15:02:40

Urban myths yet again.

GillT57 Thu 29-Jun-17 14:57:41

Although if one reads the Daily Mail you will likely discover that this couple call the taxi on their 'latest i-phone' and then go home to eat the food bank contents in front of their flat screen tv. grin. Sorry norose this is just untrue, or theft.

Ilovecheese Thu 29-Jun-17 14:36:27

I agree with MamaCaz

M0nica Thu 29-Jun-17 13:55:05

Here is a quote from the report I cited. I really recommend reading it.

They(Food Bank recipients) have been missing meals, often for days at a time, going without heating and electricity. One in five had slept rough in recent months.

They are at the lowest end of the low-income spectrum, with an average income below £320 per month, described as living in "extreme financial vulnerability".

^These are usually people of working age, middle-aged rather than young or old, mostly living in rented accommodation.
About five out of six are without a job and depending on benefits.^

Not many nurses or policemen, I guess.

MamaCaz Thu 29-Jun-17 13:34:02

Perhaps the elderly couple that supposedly abuses the food bank system, or the taxi drivers (or both) enjoy winding people up by joking about 'another trip to the foodbank' each time they do a trip to the supermarket.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 12:26:03

And the CAB might very well give them food bank vouchers until debt can be brought under control.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 12:24:51

MOnica Food bank recipients of your donations are lucky. Believe me, most of the donations don't come from Waitrose. Maybe I'm sounding too critical. The food in itself is fine, but it's very basic. That's not surprising and it does the job of filling empty tummies in a crisis, but it's not worth committing some kind of fraud to obtain.

devongirl Thu 29-Jun-17 12:18:25

They may still end up needing food banks though, Annie..

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 12:09:43

Anyone in full time employment such as nurses and police officers would be referred to CAB or similar for advice on their debt problems

devongirl Thu 29-Jun-17 11:53:28

Or a corrupt individual providing them with vouchers.

Who pays their taxi fares?

norose4 Thu 29-Jun-17 11:52:42

Sorry & Anna

norose4 Thu 29-Jun-17 11:52:10

Monica & Whitewave. no I don't have all that knowledge,perhaps it was a bad example to use & I maybe doing the couple a disservice. It's just that a realativly small area a lot of people's personal business is known & also open to inaccuracies. It is something that is spoken about fairly often which I have heard but wrongly perhaps not tried to find out more details . As this thread came up I was reminded of them .

M0nica Thu 29-Jun-17 11:43:15

norose have you taken this issue up with the Food Bank or Charity Commissioners? It is a clear breach of the terms and conditions of Food Banks and, as Ana says should not be possible. Use of food banks is limited in frequency and needs a voucher for each visit.

The other possibility is crime, with a Food Bank volunteer stealing from the Food Bank to give to favoured friends.

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 11:42:29

Someone is having you on norose

Ana Thu 29-Jun-17 11:35:22

Do you mean they collect from the Food Bank every fortnight norose4. Sorry, that's just not possible.

norose4 Thu 29-Jun-17 11:33:28

Don't have that much info Monica, every fortnight hence the loading up a lot of tin stuff .taxi drivers are not sworn to secrecy so it's generally accepted locally as accurate)not first hand knowledge, ) rural areas less populated more people know about each other plus the couple in question are alleged more than happy to share their personal business .

M0nica Thu 29-Jun-17 11:25:19

I suppose if you are expecting caviar and blinis the food must appear rather poor, but as a contributor to my local food bank all my contributions come from Waitrose, where I do my weekly shop and include the items we are specifically asked for, tinned meat (in my case Fray Bentos steak pies, which my family LOVE so I give as I eat), tinned vegetables, tea and coffee and, usually, household goods like nappies and kitchen towel.

daphnedill your description of the clients where you volunteered exactly matches what this research describes as typical clients.

norose, I find your story interesting. As you clearly have first hand experience, can you describe what sort of food and in what quantities this couple are getting and how often they go to the Food Bank? The invariable rule, I understood, was three days food and only three or four times a year. Presumably you are aware, roughly, what sort of income they have and what medical conditions they have to know whether their receipt of the food and transport to collect it is justified or not.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 11:16:51

The food itself isn't bad, but the variety is. I wouldn't eat most of it, because it's full of carbs, but I know some people would. My point is that it's OK if you're starving, but it really isn't worth defrauding any system to obtain.

If I were going to obtain food by deception, I think I'd find some way of getting Waitrose gift cards wink not value pasta, cereal and tinned carrots.

Jalima1108 Thu 29-Jun-17 11:03:52

Surely the food isn't that bad daphnedill? I hope not, when I donate food I hope it would be good enough to make a decent meal or several in fact.

I know there is generally no fresh food as it has to have a shelf life but reasonable meals can be made out of the ingredients I have seen. In fact, probably much the same as I ate when I was younger and could not afford fresh meat etc.

Jalima1108 Thu 29-Jun-17 10:58:44

I am not sure how they can abuse the system. Perhaps they have been referred to the food bank and had a taxi paid for medical reasons?

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:57:51

Society doesn't tar anyone. People with suspicious minds do.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:56:54

Have you ever seen what you get in a food parcel norose? Quite honestly, you really would need to be desperate to eat it. I can't imagine that it's worth an expensive taxi fare to claim.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:54:38

PS. We had some people who lived in rural areas with no transport. We used to take the parcels to them, using our own cars and were reimbursed for fuel (if we remembered to claim). Clients didn't use taxis.

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 10:53:17

ana grin