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M0nica Thu 29-Jun-17 09:10:59

At various times this has come up on GN and inevitably there has been the occasional member who has peddled the usual urban myths about some families living off Food Bank supplies and even selling the food supplied and the majority of customers not really needing it.

Finally, there has been some serious research into the issue and it shows just how desperately poor and, some quite literally starving, the vast majority of Food Bank clients are.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40431701

norose4 Thu 29-Jun-17 10:52:26

No it's not a rumour, what I was saying was you will always get someone who abuses the system & then unfortunately society decides to wrongly tar everyone with the same brush

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:51:52

That's how it was in the foodbank I know Ana. I don't think things have changed.

Ana Thu 29-Jun-17 10:50:37

No need for sarcasm, whitewave. It doesn't become you.

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 10:47:58

Blimey ana a positive contribution. You have made my day.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:46:45

I used to volunteer in a foodbank (in one of the richest districts in the country hmm). The only people who came to us had been referred by a GP, the CAB, a social worker, etc.

Usually, they were people living on the breadline, but some crisis or other had tipped them over. Foodbanks provide a sticking plaster for a gaping wound. The council no longer gives crisis loans.

Ana Thu 29-Jun-17 10:44:48

Well, you are only given three days worth of food at a time, and I was under the impression that you could only claim so many times a year but that may have changed now.

I find it hard to believe the couple you refer to norose4 are somehow fiddling the system, as they will have to have been referred and have vouchers.

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 10:43:13

norose in order to get food from a food bank you need a voucher obtained from a professional. If it is indeed the case that this elderly couple are getting food from a bank then they need it.

But to my mind it sounds like a nasty gossipy rumour.

norose4 Thu 29-Jun-17 10:37:00

I think maybe some areas in the country have & need more food banks than others i.e. Larger population. Less jobs etc etc. I believe you have to show proof of income etc & have ID this is certainly the case where I live, & there are always people who take advantage, a retired couple well known in our area who have bus passes, live in a rural area but have a taxi to the local food bank stock up & taxi home not a cheap fare, but they are quids in , it is these people who give the genuine a bad name .

Welshwife Thu 29-Jun-17 10:32:00

Sorry that was a bit of a distraction although I suppose the cost of rent is relevant.

Welshwife Thu 29-Jun-17 10:31:18

Did you see the programme last night about the landlords? Very interesting !

varian Thu 29-Jun-17 10:29:17

The majority did not vote for this government. The majority voted for other parties.

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 10:23:54

annie deflection.

I'd rather talk about how the wealth is divided in this country.

Those on poverty wages are contributing just as much to this country as those higher up the income scale with their labour. It is utterly disgusting that they are being exploited as they are, in order to ensure greater and greater wealth is being accumulated by the wealthy.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 10:20:17

My government? You are mistaken - our government, or the government, no matter if we didn't vote for them the majority did .

Welshwife Thu 29-Jun-17 10:16:54

The people at the lower end of the pay scale in these public sector jobs are not on big money at all - same as many of them in other jobs - this is the disgrace that anyone working in a full time job cannot in many instances earn enough to support a family without help. Prices going up and no pay rise at all for 7 years must make life very difficult. Most people tend need to utilise most of their income on rent and food etc and live to their salary level - no rise makes it hard.
This fact that working people need to resort to benefits in large numbers is a disgrace in a 'rich' country. Something is terribly wrong when it has got to this state.

NannyMcPhU Thu 29-Jun-17 10:16:00

Sorry daphnedill - so rather than overstating my case I was understating it.

NannyMcPhU Thu 29-Jun-17 10:14:42

No, but we need nurses 'round here' Anniebach too. So they have to live 'round here' and even 'round there' hmm

I see you don't believe that nurses can be caught in the poverty trap too. And do you know that your government plans to take away their grant so we can now add in repayment if student loans to the budget above.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:14:39

That's not an untypical rent.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:14:03

You've forgotten NMC registration - £120pa.
What about council tax? £100+(?)pm.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 10:11:26

Not everyone lives 'around here' where ever 'around here ' is

NannyMcPhU Thu 29-Jun-17 10:06:45

Annie FYI

Nurses basic wage. £21,692.00
Tax Free Allowance. £11,500
Total Taxable£10,192.00
Income Tax Paid£2,038.40
National Insurance£1,623.36
Total Deductions£3,661.76
Net Wage £18,030.25
Pension contributions 1081.80

Annual home pay £16948.20
Monthly take home pay £1412.36

Average rents round here £900 a month. Gas, electricity, food, travel to and from work, telephone and broadband. And what if the nurse is the wage earner, a one-parent family? School meals, children's clothes.

daphnedill Thu 29-Jun-17 10:01:31

But most people "on benefits" (ie in receipt of tax credits) are employed.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 09:58:32

No argument , just anger that the food banks and those who need them are being used by people in employment,not on benefits or mentally ill or unemployed , but in employment to get pay rises .

whitewave Thu 29-Jun-17 09:49:54

annie your arguments are hollow and indeed your attempt at deflection is simply playing the Tory game.

They will no longer wash

MaizieD Thu 29-Jun-17 09:45:46

Why on earth are we re-running the dispute about whether or not some nurses had been referred to food banks? It ran and ran last time...

It rather deflects from the main thrust of today's report. Which is about desperate poverty in the 6th largest economy in the world.

Anniebach Thu 29-Jun-17 09:44:45

I have never read or heard anyone deny there are people in much need. To claim nurses and police officers are in the same need is using the poorest people to get a pay rise