What should be done about Public Sector pay?

NHS staff also work for the agencies when they have time off.

(someone may have said that already)

Because other agencies are aggressive, as trisher said. They need to make a profit for their shareholders.

Why is it not more important to you that NHSP saves the NHS £70 million a year?

I'm not blaming anyone, just trying to see if anyone knows why the in house agency is so poorly utilised.

Primrose65 I don't think you can blame the doctors because trusts are using other agencies apart from the NHS one. As someone who worked as a supply teacher when supply agencies first began taking on contracts and moving work away from LEAs I would imagine the situation is similar. Private companies are aggressive and resourceful in their attempts to gain customers. They offer discounts, tie in deals that mean they maintain clients and many other inducements. They are often active rather than re-active. So usually a trust would call an agency because they needed staff, private companies will have staff ringing on a chance that help may be needed. Doctors may be registered with one or more agencies and so will accept any offer. As with teaching supply this will be very profitable. One agency I signed up with originally had a small rather dingy office, it now has a 2 large office/shops, all very plush. LEAs of course no longer deal with supply teachers.

www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/jos-bell/tory-links-of-health-agencies-exposed-as-hunt-lines-up-next-nhs-selloff-in-england

Links to Tory MPs. Who would have thought it?
That was the last time they tried to sell it off in 2014.

You obviously haven't even read the whole of the opendemocracy link, if you think it doesn't answer the question.

84% of us want a publicly run NHS. This is part of it.

Have you read all the links in the opendemocracy link, primrose?
If so, you are a fast reader.

www.parliament.uk/edm/2017-19/152

EDM for your MP to sign. If you look at the list you can find out if s/he has done so already.

But none of them answers the question dj They all just say how outrageous it is, not why more than 75% of trusts do not use it.

www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/michael-thorne/most-foolish-nhs-privatisation-yet

www.recruiter.co.uk/news/2017/07/staffline-confirms-nhs-professionals-bid

www.recruiter.co.uk/news/2017/07/labour-accuses-government-pushing-through-nhsp-deal-behind-closed-doors%E2%80%99

I simply want more information, to have an informed opinion.

Signed

If you don't want the government to sell NHS Professionals, sign this.

It isn't irrelevant.

weownit.org.uk/act-now/dont-sell-nhs-professionals

You just don't want to answer.

What I want is irrelevant, as I'm not in a position to make a decision about it.
I am interested as to why the behaviours of NHS staff have potentially contributed to the situation. If they only used the NHS contract agency, there would be no competition. It's not deflection, it's relevant.

But you can't answer it, can you?
That was the question I asked in the first place. You tried to deflect from the government onto the doctors.

Do you want the government to sell it?

That's not what I said. You're imagining what I think and then challenging me to prove or disprove your assumptions.

Okay, so you can't explain. You don't think it makes sense either.

What durhamjen? Ask Jeremy Hunt about the pros and cons of the deal. I just wonder why doctors don't try and keep the money that it costs the NHS to employ them on these contract jobs within the NHS. I simply don't understand it. They get the same money either way. Why do they make the NHS pay an outside agency? They are handing the money over today and have been for years.

Can you explain, primrose, why the government should sell off a company that is saving £70 million a year for only £50 million?

Noam Chomsky knows how privatisation works.

I'm sure doctors are aware of the benefit of NHS Professionals. So why don't they all use it? There would be no competitors to sell it to if they did.
That's the question - why do doctors use other agencies?

75 MPs so far agree that the sale should be stopped.
Why is Hunt in a hurry to get it sold before there is a debate on the subject?

weownit.org.uk/act-now/dont-sell-nhs-professionals