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gillybob Wed 19-Jul-17 08:27:42

Details of salaries of those "stars" working for the BBC who earn over (I believe) £150,000 will be published today .

Do we have the right to question these salaries considering that we as license payers are paying them?

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 18:01:34

Exactly Conni7

Ooh wait a minute, sorry, we're you being serious?

He's a red faced , once ginger winger now white shite mouth piece with a giant ego and pots of money who talks rubbish on The radio 2 breakfast show. He used to present the One show a while back too.

.... And I'm his biggest fan wink

Conni7 Thu 20-Jul-17 17:53:00

Who is Chris Evans?

tidyskatemum Thu 20-Jul-17 17:46:30

I used to work as a conference manager and had the "privilege" of booking a number of TV personalities for different events. One or two of them were lovely (Moira Stuart, John Culshaw come to mind) while others were a pain in the bum ( "I can't possibly go on the beach in these shoes, they're Chanel") despite being paid a 5 figure sum for 3 days work. The pay they get at the BBC is just the tip of a very lucrative iceberg.

Nvella Thu 20-Jul-17 17:21:49

Can't believe that the person on the list I would say provides the least value (Chris Evans) gets the most money!

GadaboutGran Thu 20-Jul-17 17:14:55

I guess it will cause many problems amongst the BBC staff themselves. The important issue for me is the discrimination it has shown up. Jane Garvey is pretty peeved about the pay of long serving Woman's Hour presenters & Sarah Montague (12 yrs on Today) has grounds for being so as she does not make the list whereas more recent male arrivals on Today do.
The Beeb's many faults need to be challenged & the original remit for a public service broadcaster asserted, but I would not be without the BBC, especially Radio 4. Just seeing what's on offer abroad make me accept it, warts & all.

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 15:39:44

I heard that too Nfk It stinks and laughs in the face of those who struggle to pay their license fees.

NfkDumpling Thu 20-Jul-17 15:36:21

What annoyed me was that before the list was announced both Chris Evans and Gary Linniker said they loved their jobs so much the money wasn't important! They weren't concerned with how much they earned. Twaddle! If that's true they can both take a 90% pay cut!

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 15:29:34

Grrrrrr indeed jevive and there's not a damned thing we can do about it!

jevive73 Thu 20-Jul-17 15:17:52

Grrrrrrrr!

jevive73 Thu 20-Jul-17 15:16:52

The BBC used to offer training in tv related skills and my friend trained as a makep artist. Now there is no training that I know of generally available. 700,000 pounds for Jeremy Vine to do Eggheads and one radio show. It is shameful. Jeremy Corbyn suggests a cao at 325000. Sounds generous to me but it would be a start. And why should we be concerned that Claudia Winkleman earns 500,000 pounds because Chris Evans gets 2 million...they are both obscenely overpaid. I would dearly love to be able to opt out of the BBC licence and happy to miss the few good progs they have.

lizzypopbottle Thu 20-Jul-17 15:08:31

I think the salaries disclosure was too simplistic because it wasn't expressed in like-for-like terms. There was much resentment when it was revealed that the male presenter (no idea of his name) on BBC Breakfast is paid way more than Louise Minchin even though they share the presenting equally but he might do other presenting or more work behind the scenes than she does. Until we know like-for-like, we can't judge. It's certainly against the law for an employer to pay less to a woman for equivalent work.

quizqueen Thu 20-Jul-17 14:59:48

sorry, 'compete'!

quizqueen Thu 20-Jul-17 14:59:14

I'd be happy to see the end of the BBC and the licence fee because they are no longer a Public Broadcasting Company but just a left wing media machine. Let them go commercial and show ads and complete with the rest of the channels- I never pay attention to any of the ads anyway so another channel that shows them won't bother me.

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 14:53:37

I'm always available (for radio work) widgeon see my earlier post.

Aaah Haa you have outed yourself womble I guess you watch for the wonderful scenery then? wink

Womble54 Thu 20-Jul-17 14:46:43

I don't have a TV or a TV licence. The BBC is disgracefully politically biased and ageist, and we shouldn't be forced to pay a licence fee in order to watch any telly at all. (I do go to someone else's house to watch Poldark though!)

widgeon3 Thu 20-Jul-17 14:44:33

Now that the payments made to the top BBC 'talent' have been announced, maybe we can rest assured that commercial companies, amazed at how little they are paid, will make immediate enhanced bids for the lot of them.
Then we could start again
For starters, My dustbin men , whatever the weather and their ages, are smiling, pleasant, friendly and funny. Perhaps new talent could be recruited from such sources

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 13:56:53

I would hazard a guess at a fair bit less than Mr Evans gets for talking about himself on the radio lovebeige.

I think I might have made a good DJ too. Well I like talking cr*p, love music and have what you might call a "radio face". grin

Elegran Thu 20-Jul-17 13:47:59

I don't know why this appeared on the wrong thread. I went to "Add comment" from the right thread.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Thu 20-Jul-17 13:47:16

Nice work if you can get it. I would have loved to have been a radio DJ but have only ever had fairly lowly jobs. Somehow I can't help thinking that I chose the wrong path in life.
I wonder how much the average brain surgeon earns?

Elegran Thu 20-Jul-17 13:46:17

Teetime When I was a new editor of a Gransnet Local page I mentioned it at a hobby group I went to - all people of at least 50, most of them much more. The apathetic silence was deafening, apart from one (man) who said "We don't want to hear a lot of people going on about their grandchildren." I told them about all the other things that are discussed but the image of a crowd of old women gossiping was too strong.

I don't think it is easy to change the name of an organisation overnight though. All the paperwork, all the marketing, all the business and journalist connections, all of it are in the name of Gransnet.

Lewlew Thu 20-Jul-17 13:29:31

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 11:55:23

They are all cringe-worthy!! EM was funny because of it and made me laugh. grin

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 12:43:08

Oh thank goodness I didn't hear him Ana . My ears hurt just thinking about it.

The bit where the various callers were flushing their loos was quite funny and I admit to having a giggle just imagining the Wallace and Grommet style faces, EM would have been pulling. grin

Ana Thu 20-Jul-17 12:34:04

gillybob - IDS also presented the J Vine show - he was even worse and I had to turn him off after a touple of minutes...

Eloethan Thu 20-Jul-17 12:32:21

whitewave I think you have hit the nail on the head re the Murdoch bid for Sky. Heaven help us if he gets it.

More pressure on the BBC in terms of what is paid to presenters and entertainers, plus preventing it from competing with commercial channels on "light entertainment" programmes will surely see the demise of the BBC - at least in its present form - within 10 years or so.

Then see how the cost of watching subscription TV sky rockets - as has everything else once state provision is out of the picture.

whitewave Thu 20-Jul-17 12:09:09

What worries me and what I suspect is that these huge amounts of payments -and don't forget there are many not listed because of the way these people are paid- is that quality of programmes suffer as a result as a result of these inflated payments. play-writes, comedy writers etc appear to have been sacrificed to a greater or lesser extent imo to these prima donnas.