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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 02-Oct-17 17:43:28

I am told that spoon feeding the student does not help them learn Primrose. Have you done anything to find out for yourself? As that was my phrase you will not just be able to google it but will have to work out why neo-liberal economics might be a trap.

FT articles will probably pop up if you google something like "crisis of the legitimacy of capitalism Financial Times"

whitewave Mon 02-Oct-17 17:41:30

I seem to remember primrose your advice to me when asking for information is to google it, perhaps you should follow your own advice, there is plenty on it if you look.

I found neo- liberal trap the first time of looking.

Primrose65 Mon 02-Oct-17 17:29:00

Links to the FT articles would be fab - it was the first place I searched and I couldn't find any.

Primrose65 Mon 02-Oct-17 17:26:53

Any links for me gg on "the neoliberal economic trap"?
Other posters seem to think it's just neolib economics, but I'd like to understand what the trap is.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 02-Oct-17 17:19:47

Watching spreadsheet Phil is really, really hard work.

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 13:37:11

Whitewave, you mentioned Catalan. I have been watching videos, and I am not sure they were all police.
Why would riot police attack firefighters?

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 11:41:54

50,000 at the People's Assembly yesterday.
This is what they are doing today.

www.thepeoplesassembly.org.uk/protest_pushdoctor?e=4f295de050c123204df7f4a5c79d8428&utm_source=thepeoplesassembly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=50k&n=3

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 10:02:07

Rees-Mogg showing what an idiot he is again, with regard to the Irish border.

"Rees-Mogg’s solution, offered on the fringes of the governing Conservative Party’s conference in Manchester on Sunday, was simple: Do nothing.

“We won’t have to,” he told a ConservativeHome event. “I don’t care if a few hundredweight of beef is smuggled across the Irish border. It will make no odds to the British economy. We have no obligation to put any border up. Full stop. Challenge the EU to do it. I just don’t believe that they will, and I don’t believe that the Irish will agree to them doing it.”

Rees-Mogg is popular with Tory party members and topped a recent poll of possible successors to May. The self-consciously old-fashioned lawmaker, who speaks Latin and has a large social-media following, represents the most enthusiastic supporters of Brexit, who are pressing May to avoid compromises during the split."

Doesn't he realise that it is the Brits who want a border, not the EU. Brexiteers like him want control of our borders. That's what they thought they were backing him to organise.

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 09:57:14

Fairness for working people?
Fighting injustices?
Causing them, more likely.

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 09:55:54

World class public services, anyone?
I feel sorry for the rest of the world if the Tories think they are the same level.

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 09:54:35

I also can't believe the Tories believe these lies.

durhamjen Mon 02-Oct-17 09:33:10

About the universities, GracesGran, which university is going to say I'm not as good as the rest, so I'll charge less?
It was a non-starter.

MaizieD Mon 02-Oct-17 00:02:57

I suspect that you might need to be searching on the 'neoliberal trap' Primrose, rather than the neolib economic trap. you get lots of interesting results then. And of course, neoliberalism is closely associated with economics.

Primrose65 Sun 01-Oct-17 23:24:47

I know what neoliberal economics are gg!
I do not know what the neoliberal economic trap means in your post.
Any idea which articles in the FT? That was actually the first place I searched and it's not bringing back a single result.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 01-Oct-17 23:13:04

Just watching a clip from May on Marr this morning and she is saying that the privatising moves they have made to University fees aren't working because the universities haven't behaved as they intended. Doesn't she yet realise that this is exactly what unfettered capitalism does?

GracesGranMK2 Sun 01-Oct-17 23:09:07

Do you know what neo-liberal economics are Primrose? It's being discussed in almost every newspaper (and has been for quite some while) and political TV broadcast as has the fact that this is being seen as the reason for the crisis of the legitimacy of capitalism. When Corbyn quoted those words, he was quoting from a series of articles in the Financial Times.

Try those and if you haven't got anywhere check back and I'll find you some links although I am sure some have already been put on here.

durhamjen Sun 01-Oct-17 23:03:32

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/the-courageous-state/

Primrose65 Sun 01-Oct-17 22:56:27

Only asking for clarity so I can follow the discussion.
I know what neoliberalism is.
I don't know what is meant by neo-liberal economic trap in the context of the post.

Instead of telling me I can search or research, just post a couple of links. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would appreciate a deeper understanding.

durhamjen Sun 01-Oct-17 22:50:26

Don't think much of your search engine.
You could look at tax research or open democracy.

Primrose65 Sun 01-Oct-17 22:47:18

I have - I cannot find anyone who uses the term unless they are referring to Chile. Is that what you meant?

GracesGranMK2 Sun 01-Oct-17 22:43:07

Primrose, I give you the benefit of assuming you are not stupid - do some research.

durhamjen Sun 01-Oct-17 22:38:58

The hall, even.

Primrose65 Sun 01-Oct-17 22:38:48

What do you mean by the neo-liberal economic trap?

durhamjen Sun 01-Oct-17 22:38:29

skwawkbox.org/2017/10/01/video-ruth-davidson-admits-to-empty-cpc17-it-is-all-about-corbyn/

The hal was half empty.

durhamjen Sun 01-Oct-17 22:36:31

I prefer this story.

rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/09/30/tories-increase-appeal-younger-voters-disbanding/

Or even this one.

rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/10/01/theresa-may-woo-younger-voters/

She's going to be busy - or do you think she will get someone else to do it for her while she hides and pretends it's nothing to do with her?