Government Watch - 2

"Sir Peter Fahy, the former chief constable of Greater Manchester police, said the raid on Green’s office and the revelation that pornographic images were found on his computer were incidents that should not happen in a democratic country.

He spoke out after the now-retired detective who examined Green’s computer contradicted the Conservative MP’s claims that he never used it to look at pornography. Asked whether the officer’s intervention was in the public interest, Fahy said: “I think it’s very dangerous territory for a police officer to be making judgments about whether a politician is lying or not.

“That should only happen in a criminal investigation and then, ultimately, is for a court to decide. Police should be extremely careful about making judgments about other people’s morality when it’s not a matter of crime. It’s something really central to our democracy that police are not involved in politics; we are fairly unusual in the United Kingdom in that being the case.” "

But it wasn't going to court. It was being looked at by a member of the department where Green worked when it happened.
It should at least be looked at by an independent person, not someone who attends cabinet meetings with Green.

Whitewave, when the gov. took back the East Coast it was making a healthy profit, given to Branson and it makes a loss. I presume no tax paid as his companies are registered in the Virgin Islands. It stinks.

Would he not have noticed the vast quantity?

The main server will have exact timings for them to see when the files were accessed so it could have been other people but unlikely he would leave his computer on and unlocked for any period of time.

No one s suggesting that there was anything illegal.

The computer was protected by Greens password. The police officer made extant notes at the time of the raid, which luckily as I said still exists. The officer was told to destroy his notes, but he never did.

Now who working in any form of legal service has been advised to destroy their notes!!!!

Did you see the officer? To my mind he seemed a person of eminent integrity!

Easy for the politicians with media backing to deflect the focus isn’t it.

Whitewave.Re Green.
There seems to have been no illegality here. There were other people who had access to that computer, not least the police who took it away after a highly suspect raid. Now I have no love or respect for any Tory politician, but there is a fair possibility here that it is a set up

If it was on ages ago - yes. I think that it was suggested that it was a purely political decision, and nothing to do with either economics or need, but I can’t remember the details.

Whitewave, did you watch the programme by Ian Hislop about the Beeching cuts?

This is what we were fighting against TTIP for. If, after Brexit, we go in with the US, it will happen more and more.
Companies will be able to sue for lost profits.

keepournhspublic.com/news/virgin-threats-net-2m-from-nhs-in-surrey/

www.keithtaylormep.org.uk/2017/11/29/surrey-mep-outraged-as-virgin-care-walk-away-with-328000-settlement-after-losing-nhs-bid-to-nhs-providers/
I don't know but it would have cost more if it hadn't been settled. This is just one health area. There are five others, so it will cost over £2 million altogether, straight into the BVI.
I hope we are not giving them any money because of the hurricane.
He can pay for it out of tax savings.

Do you know who what type of 'court' would have given judgement Jen had it not been settled?

I saw a film ad about UK train companies which are owned by mainly EU companies. The money the Uk companies pay the foreign ones is subsidising the passengers of those countries at the expense of UK travellers. It seems this tendering and buying by other countries will continue after Brexit!!

Even more of our money into Branson's pockets.

leftfootforward.org/2017/12/virgin-care-just-sued-the-nhs-for-a-fortune-but-the-tories-and-lib-dems-made-it-possible/

Yet more of our money down the drain, through this government’s incompetence. Instead of sorting out the problems with the easy coast rail, it has let it fail and is now costing the tax payer 2bn.

Tories just love spending our money on useless projects like the DUP, brexit and rubbish rail franchises.

But they hate spending our money on good and useful things like the NHS, homeless and hungry.

Green -I see those willing to ignore the fact, that the victims in the thousands of pornographic videos, and those subject to being groped, exist and subject to Greens and possibly another high profile ministers unwanted attentions are trying to focus on the ex policemen, saying that they broke the secrets act. Which of course has been admitted that the policeman did nothing illegal.

Of course once again “national interest” is being overlooked in the party interest.

Lack of integrity and hypocracy characterises this government.

Spin, spin

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-criticised-yemen-crisis-debate-parliament-latest-saudi-arabia-a8087876.html

Shows how important MPs think that the Yemen situation is.
May in Saudi at the time, selling arms so they can carry on bombing those poor kids.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bob-spink-mp-electoral-fraud-conservative-mp-ukip-voter-castle-point-essex-southwark-crown-cour-a8087266.html

Electoral fraud investigations still going on.
Not the important ones yet, but it's a start.

Is this a record, someone threatened with deportation after being here for 52 years?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/01/man-detained-threatened-with-removal-after-52-years-in-the-uk

Guardian reporting that Mogg had a cosy meeting with the white supremacist, Nazi sympathiser Steve Bannon in London.

Anyone in any doubt about which way Mogg politics would go given the opportunity?

Hypocracy is a concept never recognised by the Tories.

Theresa May seems to be following the example of Margaret Thatcher who was surprisingly tolerant of wayward Tory ministers. Boys will be boys, after all. It doesn't quite fit with the sanctimonious "family values" preaching, does it?

These Tory MPs have no shame, do they?
Look where Liam Fox is now.

Yes heard him this morning and thought the same.

Culd be. I'm not quite sure that having Andrew Mitchell support you when you say you are not lying is a good thing, either.

Covering his back?