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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

durhamjen Thu 09-Nov-17 19:07:19

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/09/venn-diagrams-for-our-times-the-unholy-mess-were-all-in/

Anyone want to join in the discussion/argument?

durhamjen Thu 09-Nov-17 18:11:35

www.theweek.co.uk/uk/89615/johnson-under-renewed-pressure-over-zaghari-ratcliffe-gaffe

The family have asked the foreign office to tell Iran that Johnson was lying.

durhamjen Thu 09-Nov-17 17:15:37

If he had any humanity in him, he would resign anyway. May shouldn't need to sack him.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 09-Nov-17 10:40:03

He should go. He has harmed the safety of a British citizen which is totally contrary to what he is in position to do so he has failed. After Prexit I cannot see her having the power to do it though. What a mess.

Welshwife Thu 09-Nov-17 09:27:24

What he said was all recorded and he needs to retract it and say he was the one who misunderstood and so made a wrong comment - he thinks we are all fools.

Bonnie Greer's tweet was the best!

durhamjen Wed 08-Nov-17 22:59:02

Boris needs to resign now.

twitter.com/HadiNili/status/928343627616718850

He has made it worse for Nazanin Zaghari.

whitewave Wed 08-Nov-17 15:03:25

@Dunt

Deception everywhere. Patel, Johnson and Davis in the last 24 hrs. Points to something truly rotten in Westminster

mostlyharmless Tue 07-Nov-17 19:45:02

Bercow was in the chair in Parliament at lunch time when they were discussing Priti Patel's faux pas.

Shame she wasn't there though, she was apparently on a plane!

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 19:39:10

Ducking stool. If he drowns, he lied. If he floats, he lied.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 07-Nov-17 19:28:30

Boris needs the stocks or something similar. He is still trying to justify his stupid thoughtlessness.

whitewave Tue 07-Nov-17 19:03:26

New Statesman

“This Cabinet has normalised complete bloody incompetence”

whitewave Tue 07-Nov-17 19:00:11

@Dunt
“Extraordinary. May now has a Foreign Secretary, and an international development secretary conducting an independent foreign policy”

GracesGranMK2 Tue 07-Nov-17 18:53:00

No one in Parliament because they are going into a short recess I think.

Perhaps Speaker Bercow had already taken off too. I wouldn't begrudge him. He is inhuman during long debates. Not going to the loo must be his superpower.

Last night MPs debated Transport in the North. The debate saw passionate speeches from Northern MPs, but Chris Grayling, the Transport Secretary, was nowhere to be seen. Why am I not surprised.

jura2 Tue 07-Nov-17 17:59:14

Why was Bercow not in charge today.... of all days ???? sad

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 17:55:22

Thanks, Jess.
Did you see the deputy speaker trying very hard to keep control when Boris was obviously lying about it.
I know she has to be impartial, but I assume the speaker can rebuke him for misleading the house tomorrow.

JessM Tue 07-Nov-17 16:35:09

It is in hansard - answering a question from Ann Clwyd MP

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 16:31:52

Did anyone watching notice the dearth of government frontbenchers for Boris's statement this afternoon?
The cabinet meeting this morning was cancelled.
I wonder why.

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 16:26:50

Boris refusing to apologise for what he said, saying it had been misconstrued. He claimed he didn't say that she had been teaching journalism. He is such a liar. It must be in Hansard.

"In fact, Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe is a project manager with a charity and was in Iran to visit her family for Nowruz, the Persian New Year. She is not a journalist and has never trained them.

Let us be clear about this: Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe was told at the court hearing that Mr Johnson’s words were being used against her.

But today (November 7) giving his statement in the Commons, he absolutely refused to apologise for his blunder – not once, but many times.

He said he spoke to his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and told Zarif that the government’s view is that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was just in Iran on holiday. He said that, when he spoke to the Commons foreign affairs committee last week, he was trying to make the point that, even if Zaghari-Ratcliffe was training journalists, that would not have justified her detention – but added: “I accept that my remarks could have been clearer in that respect.”

He was right – but only because his remarks last week were nothing like his claim about them today. He said: “When I look at what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, she was simply teaching people journalism, as I understand it.” He did not say her detention would not have been justified even if she was training journalists."

JessM Tue 07-Nov-17 09:46:56

He'd have done better to avoid defending BJ as it sounded like he was confirming what Boris said!!!

whitewave Tue 07-Nov-17 08:24:30

Fox trying to defend the indefensible with regard to Johnson- idiot.

Now defending Patel!

Dear oh dear

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 22:26:19

Another government failure.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-hotels-victims-families-majority-still-living-temporary-accommodation-government-a8036496.html

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 22:22:37

This is quite explosive.

davidhencke.com/2017/11/05/exclusive-supreme-court-ruling-opens-way-for-legal-action-against-michael-gove-and-liz-truss-for-racial-discrimination-and-victimisation/

Could cause the government to collapse.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 20:27:53

Her husband has been trying to get the foreign office involved since she was arrested. I have signed all sorts of petitions, for both her and the grandfather who is also in jail in Iran.
I really hope Boris is found to have done something so outrageous that he is dismissed so we can have a foreign minister who cares about something and someone other than his own image.

JessM Mon 06-Nov-17 19:48:12

Boris Johnson really is a menace. That poor woman, stuck in jail, missing her daughter's early years and he opens his massive, arrogant mouth and comes out with something so damaging and unfounded!

GracesGranMK2 Mon 06-Nov-17 19:34:50

Mentioned it on another thread Jen. The poor women is suffering from depression with no real knowledge about why she was arrested or how long she will actually have to serve. The only thing that seems to be keeping her going is her daughter who has stayed in Iran in the care of her Grandparents. This means her husband is separated from his daughter. I believe the little girl no longer speaks English so is loosing some of her heritage and the contact with her daddy. It was horrifying enough before Boris tried to be clever. He really is a very stupid man.