Our country post Brexit

our tap water is more chlorinated than any chicken

I won't buy it but people who need to buy cheaper food may do. It will have to pass regulations.

What the Americans are doing is legal in their country.
I abhor the way that the USA are rearing chickens, but I don't have a problem with chlorinated chicken.
I clean my teeth with chlorinated toothpaste
I use mouthwash with chlorine in it.
I swim twice a week and must swallow.. I don't know how much.
I use a teeth whitening kit every other month.
I don't think that one chicken meal a week is going to kill me.

What are the EU regulations regarding GM foods - does anyone know (in a nutshell, GM of course, please).

Strong enough, sorry.

The fact that it was picked up by trading standards or the Food administration in Germany.
The chemical found is string enough to kill honeybees, and affect human organs.
You should be pleased, not critical.

But isn't there a difference gilly? It is illegal to use the insecticide in the EU. It is perfectly legal in the USA to keep the chickens in filthy conditions, each being given more room in the oven dead than they ever had alive.

Yes I heard that on radio 4 petra and they have had plenty to say about American chicken haven't they ?

Who said that the EU is squeaky clean on food production, Petra?

The EU contains individuals who cheat and ignore rules, just as any other country or bloc in the world does. Horsemeat burgers, anyone?

That doesn't invalidate the EU's food regulatory framework. The fact that it's been picked up means it's probably well policed; which is lucky for consumers.

So much for the squeaky clean eu on food production.
Aldi have had o withdraw all eggs from 4,000 German stores because a naughty Dutch company has been using the insecticide Fipbronil.
That's going to cost them

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/08/03/the-weird-fantasy-world-of-brexit-transition

Ian Dunt.

Can't stand Steve Coogan's Alan Partridge and I voted leave.
Mr. S. thinks AP is great, he voted remain and DS loves to watch him too. He didn't vote but has assured me he'd have voted to remain if he had done.

www.labourfreemovement.org/

Steve Coogan is writing an Alan Partridge brexit series to be shown next year, as he reckons Alan Partridge would have been a brexiteer [which says it all, really!].

We own 73% of it at the moment.
However, as it's made a profit for the first six months of the year, we probably will not own it for long.

I thought 'we' owned RBS?

"The new controls are in contrast to the relaxed border control regimes many British holidaymakers have experienced until now. Hitherto, it was not uncommon for UK travellers to simply wave their passports at bored officials in glass boxes.

But the new security controls require officers to sends details of passengers from non-Schengen countries through the “Schengen Information System”, a pan-European database to alert authorities if they are known to pose a threat. It also goes through Interpol’s list of stolen and lost travel documents (SLTD).

E-passport gates, which scan a microchip in a passport, are usually much quicker, but there are not many of them at EU airports."

Brexiteers are getting what they asked for, better control of the borders.

RBS plans move to Amsterdam for post-Brexit EU hub

The hub could employ 150 staff, RBS said, although it may not be necessary to move staff to Amsterdam as some could remain in London.

RBS employs around 75,000 people

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/04/rbs-plans-move-to-amsterdam-for-post-brexit-hub

The Institute if Directors are insisting that the government makes clear its plan or Bre it and post Brexit, in order that companies can begin to plan for the next 5 years.

They will be waiting a long time.

Times article

" there was never the slightest chance that the EU and UK would be able to ratify the divorce bill and trade negotiations within the two years allowed under the A50 let alone the short time now left to us.

It is only now dawning on the political class that the transitional arrangements cannot be dealt with under the EEA as not only is it outside of the customs union which would precipitate the auK into a disastrous cliff edge scenario, but it would take time sapping, complex negotiations in its own right.
The EU Commission realised this a year ago, yet our (Brexiters) fantasists continue to think this is possible"

Downing Street is a long way from making up its mind as to the course it wants to take as nickrobinson made clear this morning.

May has insufficient authority to insist that her cabinet pull together and come up with a plan over the divorce bill. Without those negotiations completed we cannot move a single step forward towards progressing Brexit.

But we have with the whole of the EU argument whitewave and like you I wonder how they have got away with it. Governments have found it very convenient to blame the EU for the ills caused that should be at their own door, no one set anything up for the different senarios possible, few told the truth mainly, I believe, because they has little awareness themselves of what running a government out of the EU in this century looked like. Nick Robinson has hit the nail of the head.

nickrobinson BBC " it is clear that the Brexit negotiations have not begun in cabinet let alone Brussels"

How can we be so badly served by our representatives?

It is a disgrace.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/03/second-brexit-referendum-case-getting-stronger-political-deadlock-life-raft

One good thing that should happen - a second vote after the terms have been agreed.

Proof.

"Michael Gove’s father has contradicted claims made by his son that the family’s fish processing firm in Aberdeen was destroyed by the European Union’s fisheries policies.

Ernest Gove told the Guardian that he sold the business voluntarily because the fishing industry in Aberdeen was being hit by a range of different factors. These included competition for space in the port from North Sea oil vessels, the Icelandic cod wars, dockworkers’ strikes and new 200-mile limits to control over-fishing.

Michael Gove has said in speeches and television interviews that his father’s firm “went to the wall” because of the EU’s fisheries policies, and that the common fisheries policy “destroyed” it.

Ernest Gove told the Guardian that he did believe the industry in Scotland “more or less collapsed down” after the EU became involved in fisheries policy, but he said he sold his firm voluntarily, as a going concern. “It wasn’t any hardship or things like that. I just decided to call it a day and sold up my business and went on to work with someone else,” he said.

“[I] couldn’t see any future in it, that type of thing, the business that I had, so I wasn’t going to go into all the trouble of having hardship. I just decided to sell up and get a job with someone else. That was all.” "

No, you are correct. Either that, or we both have false memory syndrome.

jen; I was just going to mention that, given that one of Gove's arguments against the EU was the fact that their access to our fish put his father out of business [which was then found to be untrue although I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong]. I can still see and hear Gove speaking on this matter with DD prior to the referendum.Or am I suffering from some sort of false memory syndrome ....?