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North Korea and US

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Luckygirl Wed 09-Aug-17 09:33:16

Two raving nutters locking horns - heaven help us all.

nigglynellie Fri 11-Aug-17 15:42:10

At the moment NK haven't got a nuclear programme , but will possibly have one by 2018 so defence for the minute at least is an option - with nuclear warheads? I'm not sure.

rosesarered Fri 11-Aug-17 15:39:21

Trump will be gone ( maybe sooner rather than later) but Kim Jong Un will still be there, as will his nuclear missiles.
Another US administration will have to deal with it.

paddyann Fri 11-Aug-17 15:30:25

I feel sick every time I hear another of trumps pronouncements on twitter,the man is clearly insane .How on earth has he got into the position he's in? Someone needs to stop him and do it NOW ,for the sake of the human race ...pf all creeds and colours

devongirl Fri 11-Aug-17 15:29:25

I am sick of the criticism on sites like this or the media in general about a man who was democratically elected because people believed he wanted the best for his country.

Would the firing of a nuclear missile at the US be 'the best for his country'?

Jalima1108 Fri 11-Aug-17 15:26:21

I'm not sure djen. Presumably it would be shot down over the ocean if possible and could it be shot down successfully before detonation and remain intact?

Jalima1108 Fri 11-Aug-17 15:21:02

I'm sure the people of North Korea would like the lifestyle which their southern cousins enjoy and would be very glad to be free of their dictator. He is the only danger here.
I'm sure no-one would disagree with that. However, if a nuclear missile was used by either side it will not just kill Kim-Jong-Un but possibly millions of people in a very wide area.

sandelf78a Fri 11-Aug-17 15:14:31

Spoilt rich boys, both of them.

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 15:01:15

What's happened tp UKIP, quizqueen?

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 14:59:36

Isn't it dangerous to shoot down a nuclear missile?
It will spread radioactivity over a very large area, presumably.

quizqueen Fri 11-Aug-17 14:59:32

I am sick of the criticism on sites like this or the media in general about a man who was democratically elected because people believed he wanted the best for his country. Why the Americans or the rest of the world would prefer crooked Hillary as an alternative, I have no idea. If that country or its dependencies are attacked then I would expect the repercussions to be great and final. I'm sure the people of North Korea would like the lifestyle which their southern cousins enjoy and would be very glad to be free of their dictator. He is the only danger here.

nigglynellie Fri 11-Aug-17 14:34:32

Who knows what really makes these two tick?! Hard to believe that either of them is seriously considering nuclear war particularly as neither side would gain a anything, in fact the complete opposite Is it an ego trip on both sides by two men full of their own p&p. I certainly think Trump should 'Be Quiet', make sure that surrounding vulnerable countries are defended up to the hilt in order to shoot down hopefully all missiles fired at them, and hope that NK will realise the futility of their aggression and back off! Forlorn hope maybe, but I just don't see what else the Americans can do to contain NK if push comes to shove.

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 14:33:14

Yes, I know, roses. That's why I dared her to tell him!!!!!

Trump not improving.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40901746

Apparently trump has had a nuclear fixation since he was this young.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40879868

In 1984 he wanted to be put in charge of negotiations between Russia and the US, so I suppose we should be thankful that never happened.

rosesarered Fri 11-Aug-17 14:01:12

Surely Miep was talking about Kim Jong Un ! Does he have a twitter feed.....?

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 13:55:23

I dare you to tell him that on his twitter feed, Miep.

Luckygirl Fri 11-Aug-17 13:52:23

nigglynellie - as I said at the beginning: "Two raving nutters."

Miep1 Fri 11-Aug-17 13:37:23

He's so fat he probably can't even see his penis

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 13:27:57

my.labourlist.org/page/m/2c9aeca1/13fa0d4e/6380bce5/34ad1b15/2171980131/VEsHAA/

Time to tone down the rhetoric.

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 13:24:05

By the way, the US, China and Russia have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole of Europe if they so wish.

What happened to nuclear non-proliferation?

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 13:22:46

Next month, apparently, according to some seers!

Bluecat Fri 11-Aug-17 12:52:33

This is the way the world ends...Not with a bang but with two vain, pampered fools egged on by their servile followers who daren't confront them.

Understandable in the case of NK, where arguing with the leader would likely get you killed, but what's the excuse of the Americans? The Democrats seem incapable of marshalling their forces to oppose Trump, and seeing a parade of supposedly decent Republicans making pitiful excuses for his insane behaviour is utterly depressing.

What can we do, except keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best?

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 12:34:04

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/11/north-korea-us-south-korea-huge-military-exercise

Hope nothing goes wrong here.

nigglynellie Fri 11-Aug-17 12:27:40

At least the Americans have the chance to change their leader! pity the poor unfortunate citizens of NK who are stuck with this regime probably for donkeys years. Of course they all cheer and shout, and laugh hysterically, clap their hands till they fall off, prostrate themselves at every opportunity ; if they didn't they'd be dead along with their relations or at the very least in a labour camp for years on end! not sure that that any of that is very likely to happen to anyone in this country under the present government! As you said roses, people in the safety of the west haven't a clue what a true dictatorship is like and we can all consider ourselves extremely fortunate that we don't. A country that treat its own citizens in the way NK does, is capable of anything and we should be very vigilant.

rosesarered Fri 11-Aug-17 12:16:11

Keep your uninformed suppositions to yourself perhaps durham
Words are all part of the bluff and double bluff that goes on between countries and governments babette

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 12:13:25

Sorry, moved on a bit since then.

Why does the UK want nuclear missiles? Same reason NK wants them.
Both silly in my opinion.

Babette Fri 11-Aug-17 12:11:25

Rosarered....words have consensuses.