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North Korea and US

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Luckygirl Wed 09-Aug-17 09:33:16

Two raving nutters locking horns - heaven help us all.

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 23:32:34

14,900 nuclear bombs in the world, most of them thousands of times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.
Annihilation for the world. Every city looking like Raqqa.

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 00:09:03

I wish someone could put trump in his place like this.

www.indy100.com/article/trump-supporter-gets-absolutely-schooled-by-nuclear-arms-expert-7887706

rosesarered Sat 12-Aug-17 08:25:50

Forget putting Trump 'in his place' let us hope that the US manage to put NK in it's place.
Just seen a UK Rear Admiral on breakfast tv saying that hopefully NK will get back in it's box or it will be put there by the US.Also that beyond the rhetoric,the US is engagaing in diplomatic talks behind the scenes in NK.

rosesarered Sat 12-Aug-17 08:28:53

That's the bit we never see btw ( with anything) that there is always more going on behind the scenes.There will be pressure put on China by the US as well no doubt, done in a very diplomatic way.China will not support NK if they fire missiles first.

rosesarered Sat 12-Aug-17 08:30:25

Fortunately, it's not just Trump working alone, he has a very good military team advising him.

whitewave Sat 12-Aug-17 09:06:55

Fortunate indeed

nigglynellie Sat 12-Aug-17 10:30:03

As yours say roses, more going on behind the scenes than we do or ever will know about as it is with brexit!
I feel much less alarmed today but even so NK could even with China's diplomacy launch an attack on Guam, but fingers crossed, they don't!

Jalima1108 Sat 12-Aug-17 10:34:44

That's the bit we never see btw ( with anything) that there is always more going on behind the scenes.
That's the impression I got last night from the news - that the Americans are working hard for a solution to this crisis and probably many of them are gritting their teeth and alarmed at Trump's jingoistic utterances.

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 10:42:37

If only he would stop tweeting!

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 10:58:15

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nuclear-attack_us_598dfdcae4b09071f699a005?section=us_politics

Trump can start a nuclear attack on his own.

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 11:06:13

Hawaii is getting prepared for a nuclear attack as well.

whitewave Sat 12-Aug-17 11:15:34

Still all the time Trump can keep this going as well as threats to Venazuela, the world isn't looking at his relationship with Russia, so I suppose it has its advantages.

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 11:16:46

I don't suppose he's all that bothered about Hawaii, either, as that's where Obama was born.

whitewave Sat 12-Aug-17 11:17:09

America wouldn't have to work so hard if their idiot President learned diplomacy, and moderation of language.

I wonder how it will be spun once it all settles down?

whitewave Sat 12-Aug-17 11:18:01

I thought Trump insisted that he wasn't born on American territory?

What a fool he is.

whitewave Sat 12-Aug-17 12:51:27

Seems China is telling America to get a grip!!

The hope that Kelly would bring some discipline has been somewhat dashed.

durhamjen Sat 12-Aug-17 13:15:32

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2017/08/12/charlottesville-university-of-virginia-unite-the-right_n_17735216.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-news

These are the people who support trump.

AlieOxon Sat 12-Aug-17 20:46:52

China asking both trump and Kim to show restraint in what they are saying....... anyone think either of them knows what the word means ???

Rhinestone Sat 12-Aug-17 21:37:40

I'm a furious American. Furious that T got elected by an archaic electoral college and more furious that he's an embarrassment. I have never ever seen an election were people stop being friends with others because they voted for Trump . Do you hear the hate that's going on now and violence in Virginia? T brought this on . He was a hater during his election and gave hate groups permission.
The congress can get rid of him using the constitutional amendment saying he is incompetent. Believe me many are panicking here. Why isn't T getting the people ( non military) off of Guam? The best boy good thing I can say is that Kym does not have as many bombs as we do. I think he really knows all he has to do is drop one bomb and he and his country will be flattened. Let's hope they are both posturing.

Norah Sat 12-Aug-17 21:44:58

I suppose diplomacy will prevail. Nobody wants a war.

maryeliza54 Sun 13-Aug-17 00:17:29

Norah nobody rational wants a war. Unfortunately there are two irrational players.....

Tegan2 Sun 13-Aug-17 00:39:00

Rhinestone; I heard Trump not condemning the perpetrators of this violence in Virginia, because they are his supporters sad.

Anya Sun 13-Aug-17 07:17:44

What the world seems to forget is that during the Korean War in the 1950s the USA blitz bombed North Korea (much as it did in Vietnam a decade later) and this is why the Koreans display such fear, paranoia and hatred towards the US. Yes, I'm aware that 'they' started it by invading the south, but was still a horrendous overkill.

It is the memory of this that has led to the development of nuclear weapons by the current dictator.

Why can't these fears be allayed by a Non-Agression Pact signed between North Korea, South Korea, the US and other parties in the region?

That would at least be a start.

Anya Sun 13-Aug-17 07:23:01

Rhinestone you have my sympathy. Trump is such an embarrassment with his semi-literate tweets, rhetoric and posturing. Let's hope someone reins him in or better still brings him down. He has exposed, exploited and encouraged the racist underside of the US but we do recognise that sadly we all have this underclass in our country too.

Anniebach Sun 13-Aug-17 10:20:49

He promised rainbows and was believed