Sovereignty and 'take back control'

But who is new? Apart from dinosaur Mogg of course?
That would be a different sort of shambles.

Probably should be posting this on the "Government Watch" thread?

No surprise there! harmless

I reckon they need to have someone completely new and no one from the current lot of nearly made its. The trouble is we are in the middle of an absolute nightmare of negotiations presided over by the most incapable team of people you could ever meet.

What a shambles it all is

Farage says it should be Rees-Mogg.

So all bets on the next leader

The Telegraph and the Evening Standard are reporting that a delegation of 30 MPs will ask her to resign. They hope a new leader will be in place by Christmas.
Only rumours I suppose at this stage.
Apparently they need 48 Tory MPs to force a no confidence vote about the leadership.
Surely she would resign before being forced out?

gg true

I’d love to be a fly on the wall though

There might be whitewave but they could not be sure they would get back into power and a vote of no confidence would trigger an election wouldn't it?

They may get to a point where that actually seems the best option but I don't think we are there yet.

If Tory MPs voted no confidence, they know they are in for a general election that they won't win. I can't see many of them risking that.

There might be enough Tory MPs who want rid of her, especially if they have someone else in mind.

I think you are right mostly. They would have to really annoy the DUP but, currently, even that is possible.

A vote of no confidence in the Government is the only way to force an election. But would it be successful if the DUP vote with the Government?

Perhaps that is what will finish May off -a vote of no confidence?

From Jen's link:

A top official at the Bank of England has warned the government it has less than 12 weeks to agree a transition deal with the EU to prevent City firms starting to move jobs and business out of the UK.

The drift is what will kill our economy. This government never had a big enough majority on Brexit to take this forward in the way they are doing but for some reason felt they had to listen to the dictatorship of the majority instead of trying to take everyone with them.

They just wanted to look big and brave but could end up taking us all to hell in a handcart.

Seems that May's strategy of putting the "3 brexiteers" at the helm is not really working...
DH was reading an article in FT earlier that was entirely gloomy about how WTO arrangements - or rather lack of them - would work post brexit.
It really is looking like this task is beyond them and that a vote of no confidence is needed sooner rather than later. Along with someone actually doing that emperors's got no clothes on thing - there is no prosperous future in sight if we do this - just chaos and economic ruin.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/04/eu-transition-deal-is-needed-quickly-to-stop-city-firms-leaving-uk-says-bank-official

Oh dear. I wonder who is going to shut him up.

And you would have to ask what they actually do for your average worker.

Robert Halfon has suggested that they change their name to the Conservative Workers Party.
He obviously doesn't know a lot about history, either.

What really annoys me is that they stand behind a sign that says building a country that works for everyone.
They must actually believe it.

As is the clapping from their acolytes.
It was said that Hammond never even got off the stage before the applause stopped.

The relentless good cheer from Johnson et al is getting very tedious and sounding increasingly forced.

Boris told Nicholas Watt on Newsnight that every member of the cabinet is totally 100% behind May.
Is that until his speech today?

So Davis is going to do a runner, also....talk about rats leaving.....

grr. there not their

Having watched the whole of spreadsheet Phil's (someone should tell him their not working) speech I felt I deserved a medal. That John Crace could not only sit through it but raise some laughs from it means he should get a peerage.

David Davis is going to leave parliament in 2019.