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Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson

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kittylester Sun 17-Sept-17 18:18:55

A quote from an article by Nick Cohen in Saturday's (I think) Guardian

My phone isn't letting me do links - sorry! But try googling it if you are interested.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 23:20:00

Why not?
Most threads morph over time.

Darnsarf Mon 18-Sept-17 23:17:20

This thread is "Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson". Why has it been hijacked by posting about trade unions, lobbying parliament and criticizing the political acumen and reading ability of others? It's gone totally off topic and probably not what the OP intended.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 23:09:43

By coming out of the EU, lots of workers' rights could be lost.
The ECHR ensures that we still have them, as does the ECJ.

That's why the Tories want us out of those two bodies.

trisher Mon 18-Sept-17 22:59:29

Do you really not know how governments are influenced? I suppose if you are entirely naive and don't know about lobbying and how much is spent on it you could probably assume that MPs live in a little bubble somewhere and nobody influences them whatsoever. I have lobbied Parliament I have lobbied party conferences I know how it woks and how much money is spent influencing MPs and I would rather that influence came from a body who cared for ordinary people

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 22:54:18

How about the Government? A revolutionary idea I know.?

trisher Mon 18-Sept-17 22:53:06

You think they shouldn't run the country lemongrove so who should? Big business? Lobbyists?

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 22:50:54

Wot the 'ell are you on about now trisher?
My post above at 22.33.03 says it all.So I shan't be bothering to say more.

trisher Mon 18-Sept-17 22:47:20

Deflection again. If you don't like unions lemongrove why not? They are representatives of working people. Do you think working people shouldn't have any influence? Do you think it should only be the rich and powerful people and companies who influence government (because believe me they do) or do you fondly imagine that there aren't powerful bodies lobbying parliament all the time? And most of them don't have the interests of working people at their heart.

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 22:35:40

And I'm sorry, but the thought of Corbyn on a donkey is funny, exceptionally so.?

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 22:33:03

More nosiness durhamjen?You just cannot help yourself.
My question 'who cares' was aimed at those who keep on wondering, what another poster, Anniebach thinks of unions.
And, as she has already answered, they are a very good thing of course, but not if they try to run the country.
My view too, so can this hot topic, what a poster on here thinks about unions?Be finally put to bed.moon

trisher Mon 18-Sept-17 22:32:04

As you don't care lemongrove why bother to post? Leave it to those who do.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 22:26:00

I care, lemongrove, and so should Annie, being a strong socialist, and with her background.
How long have you been on GN?

nightowl Mon 18-Sept-17 22:20:37

Some people care lemongrove. Some people feel very strongly about workers' rights and the importance of trade unions.

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 22:10:08

My God, you do go on durhamjen you have done this union question to death.Who cares?

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 22:05:19

This is what McCluskey said.

“The reality is that the law is wrong and it has to be resisted. I dare say if you’d have been interviewing Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi or the suffragettes you’d be telling them that they were breaking the law.”

What do you think of that, Annie?

Is the law wrong?
Do you support the unions?

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-17 21:58:28

claiming I cannot read is a political discussion

trisher Mon 18-Sept-17 21:45:43

It isn't funny it's another inanity but still this is a political thread and nobody wants to discuss politics do they? Especially not those responsible for the current mess the NHS, public services and the benefit system are in.

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 21:04:41

If true, it's even funnier than him arriving on a Harley.

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 21:02:26

No durhamjen I didn't notice your mentioning it, it was anniebach who mentioned it,so I asked if it was a joke, and surely it is.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 20:57:05

So, lemongrove, you didn't notice Annie saying that Corbyn arrived on a donkey, but you noticed me saying it. Why?

What do you think the joke is?

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-17 20:56:25

Conference all arrange , there is to be no criticism of Corbyn, no left of centre speakers to address the members.

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-17 20:54:02

I doubt anyone wants insults and inanities but some enjoy posting them else they wouldn't do it. All I have done is post my opinions on Corbyn and Momentum

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 20:52:24

Conference season should be interesting.

Anniebach Mon 18-Sept-17 20:51:32

I thought so lemon, remember the songs of adoration sung to him ?

lemongrove Mon 18-Sept-17 20:50:34

I very much doubt that anybody prefers insults and inanities, and think that once the bullying posts start then you have lost the arguement.Stop the interrogations and the childish insults towards anniebach and stick to politics.