Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson

Which is why Corbyn's extensive use of 'Linda from Leeds'
Type stories at PMQ's became bogged down in one story that nobody can prove or disprove presented as fact.

trisher I thought MP's listened to the views of their consituency and therefore knew what 'the man in the street'
Worries about.Too much of this 'let's only listen to the ordinary people' and in this case possibly Momentum members leads to 'the lunatic's being in charge of the asylum'.

For some strange reason the Corbynites are very concerned about my politics lemon, rather fragile perhaps

I second what anniebach says, and think it's a bit of a cheek to talk about ( in this way) a fellow member of a forum, when it's none of your business.

My politics are just that MINE, that you claim they confuse you is rubbish sorry, quite simply I am not a supporter of militants or communists, I am not far left, those are the politics of yester year.

I do not trust Corbyn, he will promise anything to gain power and will just dance to Len McClusky's tune.

I will continue to post my views on militants , communists and momentum, really they are one and the same

It's a bit unusual to be in favour of unions but not in favour of what unions do, being affiliated to the Labour Party.
Maybe Annie would prefer it if they were affiliated to the Tory Party.

Talking about Tony Blair, have you seen that his favourite PR group has got itself into a spot of bother?

I know trisher. I share your confusion about Annie's politics

I think I'd agree with you there, gillybob, though sadly we'll never know for sure.

nightowl I asked about Blair because I have yet to discover what sort of Labour Party Annie supports- Blair was the furthest to the right I could think of, but yes, you are right, he was regarded by Thatcher as her greatest achievement
Arguably lemongrove politics should not be about listening to those in power, or those proposing to be in power, but those people listening to ordinary men and women, who have experienced the problems of everyday life, and then doing something about it. Not using party conferences as a platform for people who speak publicly everyday makes a welcome change

David Milliband would have been a perfect Labour leader.

Has anyone said unions are not needed? What is not needed is a union controlled government and puppet Corbyn is their dream come true . Thornberry is already being tipped as the next leader, something I said months ago.

www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/publicsectorpersonnel/bulletins/publicsectoremployment/june2017

This is why unions are needed.

" Official figures released this week show that 16.9 per cent of workers were employed in the public sector in June – a 0.1 per cent fall on the previous quarter.

This is the lowest share since the ONS’s current records began in 1999 – and historic Bank of England data reveals it is the lowest share since 1947, the year before the NHS was founded. [1]

Even under Margaret Thatcher the public sector’s share of employment did not fall below 20 per cent.

Just under a million public jobs have been lost since 2010 due to funding cuts, privatisation and outsourcing.

The majority of the jobs lost have been in local government. [2] "

Perhaps Corbyn will ride into Conference on his Harley.

I support unions, I support labour MP's, I do not support unions controlling the government and I do not support militants and communists.

The ordinary members will be momentum members , the whole conference is rigged

anniebach has just stated that she supports the unions, but not, as I would agree, the unions running the country.
I imagine that Khan and Burnham are toeing the Party line,
But must secretly be fuming, given their political experience, having to give the floor to young Joe Bloggs who knows very little.
Momentum are now in control of the Labour Party and will be doing all in their power to consolidate their grip.

Was Tony Blair Labour trisher? I must have misunderstood. I thought he was Maggie Thatcher's 'greatest achievement' (or so she said)

Even Sadik Khan agreed it was a good idea to have ordinary members of the party speaking at the conference. Presumably you think they shouldn't have a voice? I think younger members of the party will be pleased that it isn't just the standard voices, that can be heard anyway, speaking.
You apparently don't support the Unions either, so I do wonder which areas of the Labour Party you do support? (apart from Tony Blair of course).

My support for the Labour Party is still strong, I cannot support the momentum party. I assume you will have knowledge of the arrangements for the party conference next week? Momentum has done as promised last year and taken it over, Khan and Burnham are not allowed to speak. Centre left MP's are to be silenced.

I wish they would do the decent,honest thing and call themselves the momentum party and sod of.

Your posts about me not being Labour are ridiculous, I have not changed, I am not and never have been a supporter of militants or communists.

You brought the Unions into this Anniebach make your mind up. Still I suppose your support for them is much like your support of the Labour Party. Just not understandable to most of us.

Cheaper though. Whether less dangerous is debatable

I fully support unions, I do not support unions controlling the government .

Thatcher did not cause a labour government to force the people of Aberfan to pay for the removal of the tips , a labour government did because the unions were in a battle with the NCB.

Thatcher did not cause unions to leave the dead unburied, unions did.

Unions drove the Labour Party into the wilderness years and the same will happen again .

This is no defence of Thatcher just a few acts which brought misery to the country by unions controlling the government

Unions that brought working men, proper jobs, proper wages, equal wages for women and better working conditions for all. Really Anniebach for a Labour supporter you are dissing the very basis of the working class movement. This fear of Unions was started by Margaret Thatcher and perpetuated by the Conservatives. They are working people who have a right to a voice, rather than the rich and powerful who have their money to influence governments.

It's clubbing together for strikes, broken promises ,very powerful unions.