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Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson

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kittylester Sun 17-Sept-17 18:18:55

A quote from an article by Nick Cohen in Saturday's (I think) Guardian

My phone isn't letting me do links - sorry! But try googling it if you are interested.

durhamjen Wed 27-Sept-17 08:56:09

Sorry, so it's okay for gillybob to insult the labour party, but not for me to say something similar to her?

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Sept-17 08:55:00

I think that's a bit harsh Iam there's been a lot of discussion recently on the impact of AI ( which includes robots) on employment and as sure as anything, it will be the workers who pay the price - underpinning the Uber case is the fact that they are big investors in driverless cars - think of all the job losses there. As a society we should be addressing these sort of issues and ranting about and criticising Corbyn when he does and not putting forward ideas could be interpreted as meaning you are at least indifferent to the consequences of such robotisation. giily s post was very hybolic, I think it deserved a somewhat hybolic response.

Iam64 Wed 27-Sept-17 08:45:58

I don't share gillybob's politics but I feel certain she would not "rather have rows of unemployed men and women" than any form of progress, I know politics makes us all feel passionate but insulting others in such a personal way doesn't add to the debate imo.

Anniebach Wed 27-Sept-17 08:45:25

Return off the luddites. It is accepted Corbyns politics are 1940's but 19th century .

Are we ready for businesses to leave the country when Corbyn is PM? McDonald is prepared

durhamjen Wed 27-Sept-17 08:26:23

You'd rather have rows of unemployed men and women, would you, gillybob, as in the depression years.
We've already had a repeat of the Jarrow marches under this government.

Are you going to replace your engineers with robots?

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Sept-17 07:30:00

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11769736/Peer-claims-300-a-day-in-expenses-to-walk-200-yards-to-work-at-House-of-Lords

Whereas JP's expenses cover travel, hotel and paying his secretary

gillybob Wed 27-Sept-17 07:21:31

And JC would like to see us all back in the Stone Age. Let's hope and pray it is fake news (although I have my doubts) that he is about to announce a "robot tax" on companies who use technology to "replace" workers. I mean should we all be back in horse and carts? Have lines of men sweeping stretches of roads, thousands of slaves hauling rocks up tall buildings or a team of men patting Tarmac on the roads? How about women using rocks to wash at the riverside? Would that suit? I wonder.

gillybob Wed 27-Sept-17 07:02:53

Meanwhile back in the real world BBC political reporter Laura Kuenssberg has been assigned a body guard to protect her at the Labour Party Conference.

gillybob Wed 27-Sept-17 06:54:40

Poor John Prescott is really struggling to make ends meet on his £300 a day (tax free) for attending the House of Lords. Perhaps someone should tell him a lot of families don't get that to live on for a week.

durhamjen Tue 26-Sept-17 22:46:50

My grandson always asks if anyone tells them to stop interrupting. He's started telling them to listen to the answers.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 22:44:42

I just love them. Yesterday, I saw John Prescott being interviewed by "she who must always sound really annoyed" - Jo Coburn - on the Daily Politics. He was giving an explanation in reply to her previous 'irritated' question when she interrupted and there is was - out of his mouth before he could think - "you buggers always ..." he did apologise but he was right, these interviewers think it's all about them when we want to hear what the interviewee has to say. As it was at the conference you could hear the giggling and laughing so she just had to get on with it. It made my lunch-time viewing.

durhamjen Tue 26-Sept-17 22:32:14

This is brilliant.
Dennis Skinner telling a reporter that he's part of society.

evolvepolitics.com/watch-dennis-skinner-just-taught-pompous-journalist-lesson-never-forget-labour-conference/

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 21:07:58

Not the only but it was very relaxing seeing no hit and miss.

durhamjen Tue 26-Sept-17 20:52:55

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-naomi-klein-labour-conference-fatberg-political-equivalent-comments-a7968736.html

For those who missed her. Or it might put a horrible picture in your heads that you can't remove.

durhamjen Tue 26-Sept-17 19:17:23

Is that the only reason, GracesGran?
Not that it matters - any reason is good enough.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 18:55:51

I have just realised why I lean to the left politically! They only kiss on ONE cheek! No - is it one, two or three.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 16:28:29

Very good whitewave. I can't see if it will be repeated sadly.

whitewave Tue 26-Sept-17 15:21:48

Missed

whitewave Tue 26-Sept-17 15:21:28

Oh I issued it. I expect it will be on you tube. Was it good?

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 15:06:02

No, speaking whitewave, but finished now. I expect they will repeat it.

whitewave Tue 26-Sept-17 14:53:58

I haven't got the tv on gg is she speaking at the conference? Or are you reading an article?

GracesGranMK2 Tue 26-Sept-17 14:48:16

Liking what Naomi Klein has to say. Green + Labour, it sounds good to me.

whitewave Tue 26-Sept-17 14:27:24

smiless I am sure you understand that the phrase used was a metaphor.

Attenborough also went on to say that the referendum was an "abrogation of parliamentary democracy" because of lack of facts.
To my mind many are only just coming to light and so we couldn't possibly have voted with sufficient understanding.

I was also struck by his criticism of Gove comment "we have had enough of experts"
Attenborough argued "that's a cry from someone who doesn't understand what they are saying"
" that's when someone has told them something that they don't like, and which they probably don't understand"

Attenborough is alarmed at the rise of nationalism, and to my mind it has yet to be addressed by the more progressive political parties. The AFD is another example.

trisher Tue 26-Sept-17 13:38:51

Well shall we deal with the whole concept Smileless? Firstly a democracy is a thing- "it" as you said so 'it' doesn't actually have a mind to change.
If what you mean is what would happen if there was a democratic vote in favour of remaining? I think I have answered that.
If you meant something else, perhaps you need to elaborate, or at least use language correctly.

Smileless2012 Tue 26-Sept-17 13:29:37

I can see that you didn't see the point of my comment trisher as you haven't answered my question.

What a revolting statement to make. I'd have thought David Attenborough would have had the ability to voice his disappointment that we are leaving the EU, without insulting the majority who voted to do so by accusing them of "spitting into each other's faces".