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Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson

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kittylester Sun 17-Sept-17 18:18:55

A quote from an article by Nick Cohen in Saturday's (I think) Guardian

My phone isn't letting me do links - sorry! But try googling it if you are interested.

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 11:01:51

I expect you can find out MaizieD about the talk that Corbyn gave to Momentum, but as it was just mentioned on the coverage of the Conference on tv ten mins ago, I accept it happened.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:59:47

Thornberry is talking about human rights - excellent!!

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:58:41

Not sure of your point lemon

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 10:56:36

But trisher this issue about not having a vote is all over the news, with EU supporting Labour supporters and many MP's up in arms.So it is a newsworthy and important topic.

MaizieD Mon 25-Sept-17 10:55:02

Just heard that Corbyn gave a speech to Momentum Conference

Have you a link? Gossip really doesn't have much validity.

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 10:53:36

Thornberry just doing an embarrassing stand up routine, cringe! Why do they do it? ? Makes them look silly and as if there's nothing important to say.

trisher Mon 25-Sept-17 10:53:23

If you can't criticise the things they are talking about that really matter, like poverty, pay freezes, access to education and the NHS, because you know that they are right and that the situation is appalling and getting worse. Choose something they aren't talking abut and criticise them for not talking about it, even though you know nobody has a clue about what is happening or what is going to happen.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:50:24

Keep her speech in mind and compare and contrast it to Johnsons speech. grin

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:49:26

Emily Thornberry now

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 10:49:01

Just heard that Corbyn gave a speech to Momentum Conference just down the road from Labour Conference, and that it was mainly very young peiple there, and some old people but no age range inbetween.That Corbyn spouted a lot of Marxist claptrap.Things he believes but can't say at Conference.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:46:02

Blimey a mind readergrin

Who knew we had such a person on GN?!

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 10:43:50

Some are doing a very good job of convincing themselves that it's the right thing to do.What they really think privately is a different matter.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:43:29

lemon then you obviously are not politically astute.

I am a remainer and am totally content that there will be no vote, it makes absolute sense

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:41:40

Note to BBC - stop switching the camera to someone looking tired every time someone supporting Remain comes onto the stage.

lemongrove Mon 25-Sept-17 10:41:24

I think a lot of people are simply amazed that there will be no Brexit Vote at Conference, and, no matter how it is 'spun' there will be a lot of unhappy Remainers.
There is a hilarious cartoon of a rock solid ( ahem!) Corbyn on the beach, with an M for Momentum running through the rock, in The Guardian today.As it's thought that they are behind the softly softly approach to Brexit.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:38:21

John Rule - passionate remainer. Thinks the leadership is steering the right path.

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:36:52

maizie no. It is all part of internationalism debate. So people are debating all things international.

Just had a GMB speech about the chaos that will be at Dover post Brexit.

Now we are looking at how unions help those suppressed throughout the world.

" before you eat breakfast in the morning you have depended on half the world" Martin Luther King

durhamjen Mon 25-Sept-17 10:32:50

Wouldn't it be better if you concentrated on what was said, Annie, rather than just comment on who on here said what.

It's no wonder people question your socialist credentials.
Don't you supprt unions trying to keep workers jobs?

MaizieD Mon 25-Sept-17 10:31:16

Is the Brexit debate over, then ww?

Anniebach Mon 25-Sept-17 10:22:14

So a quote of a quote of a quote ,

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:20:22

Standing ovation for her

whitewave Mon 25-Sept-17 10:20:01

Jewish lady speaking about Palestinian state - good stuff

MaizieD Mon 25-Sept-17 10:12:53

Then you quoted UNITE .Jen, no difference

But Unite quoted a very chilling assessment from the Conservative chair of the LGA

“Even if councils stop filling in potholes, maintaining parks, closed all children’s centres, libraries, museums, leisure centres and turned off every street light, they will not have saved enough money to plug the financial black hole they face by 2020”.

Are Unite meant to say 'Oh that's fine, then' and not propose any action?

GracesGranMK2 Mon 25-Sept-17 10:12:15

The press (and some on here) are just upset that there will be no contentious votes. It seems sensible for Labour Party members to want to keep their powder dry at this stage to me and it is their conference.

As you say whitewave - will the same people be asking this of the Tories next week. Now did I just see a pig fly over? They are not allowed to discuss anything let alone the divisive subject of Brexit. They are just told what to think so it's not going to happen is it.

durhamjen Mon 25-Sept-17 10:11:39

I agree, whitewave.
Real members speaking as well.