EU wants us to pay 89 BILLION divorce charges.

Paddyann You are the only person on here who has been abusive and yet you accuse those who disagree with you of being bigots. The lack of self awareness amongst some Remain voters is staggering.

Welshwife It was an advisory referendum until it was voted on in Parliament.
It is true that Cameron put out a leaflet saying that the result would be binding (and used public funds to pay for it despite it putting only the view of one side and giving no factual information).

Well said lemongrove

humptydumpty We voted to leave and we are leaving, get over it!!!

Hardly right wing press or Brexit Media making it up.

I didn't say it was either. I said it was old news and media scare stories.

Since then there have been plenty of figures bandied about, May offered £20 billion in her Florence speech and commentators recently have speculated that it may be upped to £40 billion. There is a probability that it is likely to end up between £40 & £60 billion (which is a figure more measured commentators have been citing for a few months now) . To continue to use the £89 billion figure as though it is set in stone is just scaremongering/over dramatising. Which is what I was attempting to point out.

"When I dug a bit deeper it turns out that 100 billion euros (£89 billion) was the figure that was being trumpeted by the Brexit Media before negotiations started last Spring. So OP is repeating very outdated news which is no longer true (if it ever was)."

There have been a few voices mentioning 100 billion Euros Brexit Bill so I don't find it unrealistic to mention it. Just a few here.

www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-sradio/868342/Susanna-Reid-Angela-Merkel-vice-chairman-demands-UK-pay-Brexit-Good-Morning-Britain-ITV

Dr Fuchs , Angela Merkel's Vice Chairman mentioned it only this week ( I have heard him say it before) . He said in the interview :-

" There are a lot of payments that need to be made and calculated together,” Fuchs explained. “The figures £100 billion and £60 billion - somewhere between should be the right number.”
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www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-divorce-bill-100bn-eu27-demands-contributions-a7714436.html

"The EU has reportedly raised the opening price of the UK’s “Brexit bill” to €100bn (£84bn), according to new analysis of latest French and German demands."
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www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/france-says-we-want-our-money-back-as-brexit-talks-crawl-on

The EU wants London to accept a bill to cover its share of EU spending commitments made while Britain was a member, an amount which Le Maire said could be up to 100 billion euros ($115 billion).
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Bruno Le Maire in October 2017 still saying the same.

www.thelocal.fr/20171004/brexit-france-tells-britain-we-want-our-money-back
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There are plenty of, EU politicians/ bureaucrats such as EU Commissioner Gunther Oettinger who have repeatedly spoke of 100 billion Euros as the figure the EU are looking for. They go in high , we go in low and hopefully a compromise deal is realistically struck, it's called negotiation.

Hardly right wing press or Brexit Media making it up.

Absolutely no reason at all we won't do well apart from being out of the EU with no power, no influence and no protection. Hopefully we'll leave with a deal but who knows? What is definite is that we'll leave with a far worse deal than the one we have already. Eventually, probably after many years, we will will start trading, with nations we already trade with but under WTO rules, involving restrictions and heavy tariffs. Taking into consideration our manufacturing industry is 'lean' if not non- existent and we will have lost financial passporting rights, I am keen to know what we will actually be trading. Our NHS will be decimated and probably privatised. With the EU crackdown on tax fraud due to come into operation 1 January 2019 the U.K. will become a tax haven for the rich. So yes, all in all, we've nothing to worry about at all.

Day6 the EU will no doubt be asking for the unthinkable
At this stage, shows how much they need our money, but will have to settle for much less.?

It is a fallacy to think that over 17 million voters have ‘difficult lives’ and therefore voted fir Brexit.
My life is very good ( yes, lucky me) but I was thinking of the country when voting, as I expect lots of others were too.

Yes Lyndie you are right, it has made the government think about all sorts of things, about training doctors, making more training apprenticeships etc.
If viewed positively, the UK could have a really excellent future.

Corbyn is just as keen to get out of the EU as May ( probably more keen) because low paid EU workers coming here have kept wages so low for British workers, so although he is doing it for Socialist reasons, nobody should think that if Labour become the government, that Brexit won’t happen.

I had hopes that Cameron would be listened to by the EU and would come away with something good for the UK so there would be no need for a referendum anyway.They were idiots not to concede something and that showed the extent of their arrogance and contempt for the UK that they thought they could steam roller on in the way that they were used to.
Many of us have posted our thoughts on this and why we are glad we are going to be out of the EU pretty soon, and when we have paid our dues and come to a deal with the EU,we can start making trade deals with anyone we want to, and there is no reason we won’t do very well.

It's already made the government think about education and what our young people need and what the country needs.

The figure of 90 billion was mooted by Brussels at the beginning of the process that is one of the reasons there is stalemate at present. Everybody seems to have forgotten what the EU did to Cameron in February 2016 when he had to walk away from the table with nothing....if we continue membership we will always walk away with nothing but fork our 350 million per week at the same time. The rebate we receive does not cover our costs of membership to this eletist federal organisation which I did not vote for at anytime. Personally I would go for NO DEAL with these unelected EU "officials". You can feel the venom from Junker everytime he opens his mouth, not a good way to do business.

Morgana asked very politely for Leaver's opinions about post Brexit Britain. No one has bothered to reply. Much easier to attack people who have posted their reasons for voting Remain. So either they have no vision for post-Brexit Britain or it is so awful they prefer not to talk about it.

May and the rest of her merry (not) men will send the UK down the river without a paddle. The only reason that we had the referendum was because Cameron was so scared of UKIP taking one or two votes. Brexit will cost the UK Billions of pounds and thousands of jobs. Most of us have had our working lives but I fear for the youngsters.

For all those Remainers disputing that we will not be asked for 100 billion euros to break free, it would seem that just a few days ago Boris Johnson had also heard the same figure being bandied about. (Sterling equivalent is approx £89 BILLION.)

LONDON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - British foreign minister Boris Johnson said on Tuesday he thought 100 billion euros ($118 billion) was too much to pay for leaving the European Union.

“The figure I heard was 100 billion euros ... I think that’s too much,” he said in parliament, referring to previous reports that the EU was seeking a settlement in that region.

uk.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-johnson/uk-foreign-minister-johnson-says-100-billion-euros-is-too-much-for-brexit-idUKS8N1JA02C

Did you write your post of 17.40 with a straight face lemon?

I was directing my post at no one, merely answering the question posed in the first post'who knew...? I merely said that I for one did.
How can anyone possibly be happy with the consequences when nobody has an idea what they will be? No one know the full extent of the carnage 'Brexit' will wreak on the country, even those in charge are now looking for damage limitation. I have yet to hear one positive regarding leaving the EU, with your obvious depth of knowledge and insight maybe you could enlighten me? Otherwise you enforce my opinion that 'Brexit' is like a cult with many Leavers blindly supporting it in the desperate hope that it will magically reform their often very difficult lives. I understand why people were dupped into voting Leave, (which was a game played by Cameron to appease the eurosceptics in his party that sadly backfired) I just feel sad that those expecting the most out of it are the exact people who will suffer most by the outcome.

Perhaps rahrah the rest of your posts won’t contain anything directly aimed at Leavers, and you could perhaps allow that many of us possess a few brain cells, that we may have thought long and hard about leaving the EU and were not remotely interested in lost Empires or anything else.

Well, you never miss a chance to be personal to me, that’s for sure whitewave and perhaps some of us on here get very sick and tired of all the invective directed to Leavers on GN.Because they don’t like the way the vote went at the referendum, there has been a steady stream of insults directed towards anyone who had the temerity to vote the other way. Leavers are not the ones on GN still using insulting language to Remainers, and it should stop !
It seems to be felt that it is quite alright for this one way stream of insults, is that keeping an adult tone do you think?

Oh dear indeed.

The post was to lemon

That has been said more than once by leavers to Remainers on this forum.

I said oh dear because you always insist on personalising the debate instead of keeping it to the third person. That way lies petty argument, and it is such a shame rather keeping it with a more adult tone.

The UK is the fifth richest country in the world lyndie. Why would we expect poorer countries to subsidise us? We should pay our fair share (if we have to leave which is crazy anyway). There seems to be a sense of entitlement here.

Austerity is the choice of the Conservative government, that's why the NHS and welfare state are being starved of money.

Nobody on here from the Leavers, in case my post wasn’t clear.
And yes,oh dear indeed, as rahrah says that people voted for a non existent past, can’t believe the ignorance,and ends with ‘suck it up’. Charming.