EU wants us to pay 89 BILLION divorce charges.

put a cheque on the table and say "thats it from Uk " and walk away. Up to EU if they cash the cheque.

There's a bit of hysteria about this £89 billion "divorce bill".
It is very unlikely that the final bill will be that high as this is still in negotiation. The final bill will almost definitely be somewhere between this 89 billion and the 20 billion offered by our government.

But to put this figure in a bit more perspective, it will be paid over several years.

The UK economy generates nearly £2000 billion a year. (1940 bn GDP in 2016), so the bill will be a small percentage of our total annual income (between 1 and 4 %) and paid over several years.

The greater problem will be the huge harm to our trade if there is a hard Brexit. That would dwarf them"divorce bill" and would last for up to a decade.

Got as far as this I would imagine they won't be fighting each other for a chance to work in Frankfurt, it's not exactly London and realised I will never understand the mentality of Brexiteers.

My understanding is that this is pretty much the minimum figure to meet commitments the UK is involved in.
Did the leavers think that we could just walk away?!

This is just one of the things we were NOT told before the vote. The whole EU thing is highly complex and we are totally enmeshed. This whole thing is going to cost us. Hopefully, we will realise before it's too late. Suggest we all make a list of the good pros and cons and see how we get on.

When I tried to find the source of Day6's figure the only 'result' Google gave me that mentioned it in this way was this thread

When I dug a bit deeper it turns out that 100 billion euros (£89 billion) was the figure that was being trumpeted by the Brexit Media before negotiations started last Spring. So OP is repeating very outdated news which is no longer true (if it ever was).

Curiously, when I googled on £89 billionI got hundreds of results citing that figure as being our trade deficit with the EU. I'm not sure what the connection is but it set me wondering why the media picked on it that figure for a possible 'divorce' payment.(Apart from continuing their very own Project Fear EU, of course)

Where can we study the detailed invoice for this charge?

...just so we can see if we agreed the expenditure in the first place!

Paddyann the Majority were NOT remainers last June, we voted Leave. Liz Kershaw said yesterday, it is like going to the pub every week with your mates and always getting your round in. This week you say I am not going, so your mates reply that you still have to get your round in!!!! How many remainers would agree to that????

Just to calm the op down a tad.

This morning the report is that the final total being talked about is 20bn May has already agreed to plus another 20bn to be paid over a number of years to cover our agreed liability to planned projects, pensions etc. That is the figure over which negotiations will take place -so take heart all Brexiters, undoubtedly that figure will be negotiated down so there really is no need to panic

Who thought it would be easy?

Well, this guy does, for a start:

www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/07/20/liam-fox-is-right-brexit-is-easy-were-leaving-whats-difficult-about-that/#520a40761a2b

And John Redwood:

johnredwoodsdiary.com/2016/07/17/getting-out-of-the-eu-can-be-quick-and-easy-the-uk-holds-most-of-the-cards-in-any-negotiation/

Paul Nutall:

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/755210/Paul-Nuttall-Ukip-insists-Theresa-May-Brexit-negotiations-easy

And here they are again in company with a few more:

www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/nobody-said-it-was-easy?utm_term=.twjGgZg77#.jlp1585rr

While all these people may not have convinced the wise and deep thinking Gransnet Leavers I suspect that a significant number of people did believe them. Else why are so many Leavers on other social media absolutely certain that it should be easy?

First minute and a half of this, Margaret, and they said that Brexit wasn't mentioned in their papers, and definitely not on the front pages.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/NegotiatingBrexit

20,000 needed to cope with the 3million EU citizens needing thei right to remain status, Tegan.

MargaretX
Your right there Re Turkey. Merkel and the eu really are between a rock and a hard place. German citizens have been arrested in Turkey but they have to still pay Turkey money otherwise Erdogan will just let 10s of 1,000s of migrants into Europe. Then she/them will really have a problem.
Brexit is nothing compared to that would be headache.

I wish those that throw around such figures would also throw around a few figures telling us how much brexit has cost/is costing/will cost us in the future. I dread to think how many civil servants/consultants etc have been recruited, both here and in the EU, to deal with it all. Not only that but the PM was quite happy to spend a lot of money on an unnecessary election in a futile attempt to get a bigger majority in parliament, and that's even before giving vast amounts of money to the DUP.

We knew the EU would not make leaving easy. Even more reason for us to escape.

I don't recall any leave campaigners telling us leaving would be tortuous. But now they all claim they " knew it wouldn't be easy"!

Of course leaving isn't going to be easy, but a lot better in the long run than staying in. I'll go now. I'd vowed to stay away from any Brexit thread as it only ends up in a slagging match. Don't know why I opened it.

Ahead of you on that

Take a thermos with you.?

I’ll get back on that lemon I’m off now to ask all those voting leave. I may be some time.

Brexit is to the UK everything but to the millions living in the EU it is just one more subject. Many days pass by when the news doesn't mention Brexit. The EU has other more pressing subjects to worry about - Turkey eg.

If I remember rightly the UK signed all the documents which relate to the divorce bill. The main mistake concerning the referendum was that whereas in most EU countries 70 % of all possible voters must vote yes before a refendum is successful.
Cameron should have knewn that. What a fool he was.

Nobody, I should think, voted Leave ‘ because it would be easy’ no point to that at all, they voted that way for various reasons, but it being easy to do didn’t come into the equation.

theconversation.com/dig-for-brexit-comments-reveal-the-uk-government-digging-a-food-security-hole-for-itself-85798

Dead easy, varian, although Brexiteers are denying they said so.
Chris Grayling thinks it is, but he's an .....

Who thought it would be easy?
Since there is no actual policy in place for leaving ( the EU couldn't imagine anyone wanting to leave!) then it was always going to be time consuming working out all the negotiations.But it will be done.

Exactly lemongrove nothing much is happening. It was all supposed to be so easy. How many people voted leave because they were told it would be easy?