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Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 08:49:58

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/20/labour-mp-clive-lewis-apologises-for-get-on-your-knees-comment

This as the Labour Party conference , a momentum fringe meeting.

Corbyn attended Momentum fringe invites but turned down Friends of Israel invite.

Very Donald Trump isn't it?

paddyann Fri 01-Dec-17 11:24:51

Annie there are hundreds of thousands,maybe millions,of people in THIS country who were symapathetic to the IRA cause BUT who didn't agree with the methods in the 70's .we didn't agree with the troops being sent in to NI either OR the British governments attitude to NI ...which it seems hasn't changed.If THIS is a free country as we get told...then we are free to support whoever we feel is on OUR side of the fence and I am firmly for a united Ireland ,as were my parents and grandparents and GREAT grandparents .Doesn't make me a bad person.Corbyn wasn't party leader he was entitled to his views then and now ...and by the way...hes as far from a "communist" as Queen Lizzie is ,he left of centre and not far enough for a lot of OLD labour people I know

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 11:23:29

Like doesn't come into it really, I do not trust him, I have never accepted betrayal of trust , it equals betrayal

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 11:21:02

Strange thing about people's past, we do keep hearing the same things, unless one wishes to rewrite history

Very Faulty Towers - don't mention the war .

Mention Corbyn voted against the Iraq war do not mention Corbyn support the IRA.

Ilovecheese Fri 01-Dec-17 11:18:25

Gosh! Don't you like Jeremy Corbyn Anniebach and Primrose Why have you never mentioned this before?

Primrose65 Fri 01-Dec-17 11:12:46

Jones didn't interview him! I think you're both a bit confused.

Primrose65 Fri 01-Dec-17 11:10:05

M&S are pleased, though
I think it's great that he chose a brand that's collapsed, has no strategy, is widely derided for being out of date and irrelevant on the high street.
A match made in heaven grin

durhamjen Fri 01-Dec-17 10:57:35

On so many different threads as well, trisher. I thought that was against HQ rules.

Friday Fri 01-Dec-17 10:51:09

Me too trisher ?

durhamjen Fri 01-Dec-17 10:12:14

Do you know anything about the parentage of the man who interviewed Corbyn, Annie?
I know he cowrote Dave's biography and is a Tory, as trisher states, but I don't know anything about his parents.

trisher Fri 01-Dec-17 10:10:24

I must be getting old, I keep hearing the same things over and over again!

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 10:01:11

Corbyn tried to prevent an illegal war yet supported the IRA, he has put a different excuse forward for this though.

durhamjen Fri 01-Dec-17 09:57:34

M&S are pleased, though.

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 09:55:09

Corbyn being himself? Who is he?

The man who said he was bringing a kinder politics to Westminster , we then had women MP's threatened with rape, sackings, vile things being tweeted , the party split,

trisher Fri 01-Dec-17 09:50:18

I would imagine Corbyn has some nasty personal history with Alistair Campbell from the time Campbell was Blair's Rottweiler and Corbyn was trying to prevent an illegal war. Campbell certainly wasn't known then for his friendly and cooperative manner. As for Jones he's co-writer of a book about "Call me Dave". There may be just a little bias operating here.

Primrose65 Fri 01-Dec-17 09:34:14

Corbyn was being himself? grin grin grin His physical image has been manipulated as much as any other politician in his position.
He even has to choose the person who interviews him - GQ wanted Alistair Campbell but JC's gatekeepers refused. Perhaps they're worried the questions might be a bit too hard. Even someone viewed as a fan of Corbyn by his gatekeepers ended up with some interesting comments about him.
"Jones said McGurk approached the interview as a fan of Corbyn but was “quite quickly disillusioned”. He found Corbyn to be a “bit of a Wizard of Oz” character."
Not knowing simple things like who your business advisors are isn't endearing when you're an old man - it makes you look incompetent and past your sell-by date.
You just choose not to see it because it doesn't fit the narrative you've bought into.

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 09:14:06

Owen Jones , son of trots militants and use to work for john McDonald

GracesGranMK2 Fri 01-Dec-17 09:06:18

Interesting to hear the man from GQ on Today. Like so many of the press he sounded astonished, and a little theatrically miffed, that JC did not appear to know how to conform to what they required. He appeared not to know the last film he saw, or book he read or, of course, he chose not to get to that level with them. He wouldn't play their game either apparently when it came to his suit.

How refreshing that he has red lines about just how much, as a politician, he will trivialise himself. The great thing is he still managed to acquire a platform for the LP and they did not manage to manipulate (or understand) in the way that they have done with other politicians.

Jen - Loved Owen Jones comment even more than hearing the GQ man have his nose put out of joint.

Anniebach Fri 01-Dec-17 03:37:46

Sooo boring Primrose, poor man goes to that much effort to make a complete fool of himself , even bought his suit from M & S and banks are more important, the man is a threat to the country why concentrate on just the banks.

durhamjen Fri 01-Dec-17 00:32:46

Did you see Owen Jones' comment?

GracesGranMK2 Fri 01-Dec-17 00:22:12

This is the cover of GQ. Does it really read 2018 Election Special? What do they know that we don't.

durhamjen Thu 30-Nov-17 23:12:27

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/29/corbyns-threat-to-wealth-is-welcome/

GracesGranMK2 Thu 30-Nov-17 23:01:01

Corbyn lashes out at financial sector ‘speculators and gamblers’

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Jeremy Corbyn has labelled the financial sector “speculators and gamblers who crashed our economy”, warning global banks that operate out of the City of London that he would be a “threat” to their business if he became prime minister.

It's about time we talked about the real place where the fault lies.

Primrose65 Thu 30-Nov-17 22:56:43

All this boring talk about banks Annie grin

Primrose65 Thu 30-Nov-17 22:55:23

I think that's outside the scope of a thread about Corbyn. I got your point, but it's simplistic to think the financial crisis was 'just the banks'. Very happy to discuss on a separate thread.

Banks voice opinions about the impact of political leaders and political decisions - Goldman Sachs on Brexit, for example. JC needs to be able to take a bit of criticism.

Anniebach Thu 30-Nov-17 22:42:22

Didn't mean revaluation meant revolution blush

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