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Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 08:49:58

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/20/labour-mp-clive-lewis-apologises-for-get-on-your-knees-comment

This as the Labour Party conference , a momentum fringe meeting.

Corbyn attended Momentum fringe invites but turned down Friends of Israel invite.

Very Donald Trump isn't it?

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 18:34:21

Challenged Jen? A post about a labour MP using foul language is challenged with posts about your judgement on your merits as a socialist, quotes of Boris Johnson, the ED.L .
The governments stand on universial credit ,a Tory blogger,
Owen Jones etc, that wasn't challenging it was avoidance as usual , boring, boring, boring.

trisher Sun 22-Oct-17 17:41:36

So do you find the term 'bitch' unacceptable or not Annie? Or are you as usual applying dual standards, one for Labour MPs you think have links with Momentum and one for everyone else?

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 17:39:24

You're so funny, Annie.
You start a thread, then leave when you are really challenged.

Never mind. We all have other things to do, I'm sure.

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 17:37:33

Because I do not post numerous posts on universal credit does not mean I am in favour, i choose to avoid your threads. Now I have things to do and think I have fed your need enough for one day, carry on

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 17:34:16

Niggly, he isn't an MP though .

Jen thinks only socialists are against the EDL , an insult to tories, liberal, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Green members

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 17:32:00

We all know what you say, Annie.

Why have you not criticised the government on universal credit?

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 17:29:47

Diane Abbott , oh dear me

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 17:28:41

Jen, do read posts not scan in a hurry to get your two pence in.

Some things just do not register with you , I think denial again.

I do not and have never attack the Labour Party, I do post my views on Corbyn and Co who are determined to kill the Labour Party and replace it with a communist party.

You left the party because of Blair yet lecture me on attacking the leader? Hypocrisy Jen, hypocrisy.

I do in all honesty believe Corbyn to be dishonest but I remain a Party member because there are still good socialist MP's in the party, the ones McDonald called f*****g losers yes?

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 17:22:25

This is what Guido Fawkes looks like.
Do you think anything this man says is acceptable after this?
Annie obviously does. I don't.

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 17:12:21

Annie didn't read her own link.

“There’s a certain irony in Guido Fawkes pushing this, when they’ve been one of the chief orchestrators of harassment against Diane Abbott, the most prominent black female politician in the UK.”

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 17:10:09

Did I say that, Annie?
I said more than you, not Jo Cox.

Could you please tell us a single socialist ideal you advocate at the moment.
All you do is attack the Labour Party.
An attack on the leader of the party is an attack on the party itself, as he was voted leader by the majority, not once, but twice.
Are you still in favour of Hope not Hate, which was one of Jo Cox's charities?

nigglynellie Sun 22-Oct-17 17:10:08

I think he's a Tory annie!! But I'm not sure so don't quote me!!

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 17:03:03

You set yourself to have more socialist values than Jo Cox Jen? Yet she is very much respected still.

She said shortly becfore her death she was wrong to nominate Corbyn too

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 16:58:46

Is Guido Fawkes a labour MP?

Do not judge my socialist values by your standards please , I am not an in the party out the party in the party person.

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 16:55:36

No, and neither did anyone else. It wasn't in the papers, on the news or anywhere.
Perahps you ought to read your previous post.
People didn't leap on it with glee. Why not? It wasn't considered newsworthy.
Why should Clive Lewis be getting this treatment if Guido Fawkes didn't?
I am not the one with dual standards here.

Now you know about it, what are you going to say?

Chewbacca Sun 22-Oct-17 16:43:48

Did you raise it as a matter to be discussed?

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 16:42:47

Guido Fawkes is a well-known Tory blogger who gets invited to Tory parties and meetings all the time.
He called Owen Jones McDonnell's bitch.
Is that acceptable?
I didn't see any outrage about that.

Chewbacca Sun 22-Oct-17 16:31:19

Would you still feel the same if a Tory had made the same gaffe? Or would you leap on it with glee?

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 16:27:22

The whole of this thread is distraction and obfuscation.
One does have to wonder why, particularly when the most important topic on the news today is housebuilding and homelessness.

Chewbacca Sun 22-Oct-17 16:22:52

For once, I agree with you durham; EDL are obnoxious louts and I'd like to see them banned from any public gathering. But I'm not clear what connection they have to the inappropriate comments made by CL at the LP's fringe meeting? No one on here, especially not Annie, has demonstrated any support for the EDL so I'm perplexed what the relevance is.

trisher Sun 22-Oct-17 16:21:58

As far as language goes some might find referring to female dogs as 'girls' offensive as well. It might well be taken as implying women are the same as, or indistinguishable from,
dogs.
dj it's quite simple. Bloody awful government. Can't criticise the opposition on the basis of their ideas. Trawl the internet and find something-anything!!

Chewbacca Sun 22-Oct-17 16:12:19

Distraction and obfuscation.

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 16:11:08

We all have our standards, Annie. At the moment mine are higher than yours as far as socialism is concerned.
If I still lived in East Anglia, I would be far more concerned that the EDL are marching in Peterborough today than about what happened a month ago at a Labour party fringe meeting.
Have you not wondered why it took a month to be reported? Why is Guido Fawkes reporting it now?
What ball does he wish people not to notice?

Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 15:24:43

We all have our opinions on what is acceptable , for me f*****g losers was unacceptable , not for others here.

If McDonalds and Lewis's comments are acceptable to some doesn't mean they are acceptable for everyone. Basic standards

durhamjen Sun 22-Oct-17 15:17:57

It was Guido Fawkes who brought this up.
This is Guido Fawkes twitter feed.

twitter.com/thepileus/status/921393626759991297/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fvoxpoliticalonline.com%2F2017%2F10%2F22%2Fyes-nusrat-ghani-lets-have-that-debate-about-mps-abusing-power-we-can-look-at-your-fellow-tories-strong-language%2F

Just for a bit of context.

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