Paradise Papers

sorry, maryeliza!

Yes, mareliza, the rich get richer and a peerage!

^ I’m not at all surprised at the convoluted dealings in football club management but somehow expected better from Lord Whatshisname and Her Madge. ^
Well, I don't think HM may have been aware of it (although she is very astute) and they did report that she had paid the correct amount of personal income tax on the revenue from the Duchy - so what is happening.

However, Ashcroft is not at all unexpected - only imo of course.

Yes, sunseeker, this is what I understand. The Queen has paid tax since 1993.

Jura - ‘Mr May’ is well into the organisations whose untrained employees earn a pittance mismanaging detention centres and prisons.

As for Mrs May's husband ...

As I understand it (and I could be wrong) the Queen declares all the interest she receives, including that received from abroad, and pays tax on it

I agree with you Maizie - but that does not mean the Queen should be 'left alone' - far too easy for anyone to say 'I trust my accountants, nought to do with me'. Why 'chat' - does noot make sense it all. This definitely to do with 'news and politics'.

Leave the Queen alone because there are far more sinister and important aspects to this topic. People are using their wealth to try to run this country in a way that is most advantageous to them and which is not advantageous to the rest of us. This is not democratic.

If you want to complain about the Queen 'Chat' would be a better place for it but far be it from me to police these threads

I have just heard on the BBC news Theresa May saying that everyone needs to pay the tax that is due. This has really annoyed me and I plan to contact our Tory MP. These super-wealthy greedy folk have the money to pay accountants like PWC, Deloitte etc who are well able to find "legal" ways of reducing their tax liability - there is a huge difference between the tax that is legally due and the tax that is morally and ethically due and I am naive enough to think that those in our government making rules that affect all of us, and others in positions of power, should do what is morally right and ethical. Stupid aren't I?

The Queen is avoiding tax - money n a company in Cayman avoids tax -

The Queen pays UK tax on ALL her investments. She doesn't HAVE to pay tax at all but opted to many years ago.
So having a pop at the Queen is just a little unfair.

Just don't get this either- why oh why 'leave the Queen alone'. She shoud act as the best exemple to her people- as she does in all other ways. It is just not goood enough, I'm afraid to say 'oh I didn't know, I leave it to my advisors and accountants and close a blind eye'.

Why leave the queen alone Sheilasue ?

I don't get that. Is she beyond reproach?

I am not completely ignoring any of "the real dangers" MazieD I am merely pointing out my disgust in the queen's dodgy/questionable dealings.

Bloody disgraceful, But that’s the rich for you.
My husband gets a small private pension but because it takes him over the threshold of his state pension only by a few pounds he has to pay tax.
Leave the Queen alone.

See my previous post, gillybob. You're all mithering on about the Queen and completely ignoring the real dangers which the uber wealthy pose to our country and our democracy.

Why is everyone attacking the Queen, do you really think she sits pouring over the Financial Times and ringing her brokers telling them which companies to invest in. Instead how about saving some venom for the virtue signaller Bono and others of his ilk who like to tell us what we should be doing and thinking all the while salting money away off shore.

Generally speaking, it seems to me that the super rich are not interested in morality. Remember Sir Philip Green, anyone? Some of them simply have no concept of it. They are so intent on preserving their assets that morality doesn't enter into it. The sooner we recognise that, the better.

As I recall several years ago, I think the same reporter did a similar programme re Lord Ashcroft and also D. Cameron's father and others. I wonder what came of those 'disclosures'?

I do agree re HM. She probably wouldn't have any personal knowledge of how her assets are invested, anyway.

No I won't "lay off the queen" *MazieD !

We (as her loyal subjects) supposed to look up to her. She should know better.

Oh, FGS; lay off the Queen. She's small beer and doesn't try to use her wealth to influence policy.

radicalnan They are also rich because they use their wealth to continually lobby governments to influence policy to their benefit.

'Ordinary' voters who cast their votes in a General Election and then sit back and let politicians get on with 'running the country' have absolutely no idea of how hard rich people work to protect their wealth and accumulate more (well, not exactly, they pay other people to do it for them) and how they use their money to influence policy.

For example, many 'think tanks' are funded by wealthy donors looking to produce 'reports' which support their aims; nothing like an authoritative looking report to impress MPs and Ministers.

And wealthy people have access to decision makers. Look at Legatum, a so called 'think tank' which is pressing government hard for a 'hard Brexit'. Why? Because their stated position is 'disaster capitalism', they swoop in when a country is in economic crisis and buy up undervalued assets (including previously state provided services) and make a killing. They are rubbing their hands with glee at the potential opportunities for them if we go for a no deal or 'hard' Brexit and the economy goes belly up. The NHS, Education, etc, all there for the taking because the state won't be able to afford to run them any more. And we hear of them having lovely weekends with the chancellor at Chevenings! Jeez! What 'ordinary citizen' gets that sort of privileged access to a very top member of the government?

There is lots more of this sort of thing around. Very easy to find... and very scary...

She should be shamed into taking the lead maryeliza54 if she has any shame that is.

Although the Queen's fund managers invest off shore, she declares her income and pays the tax equivalent amount. I think that is fair,

......and we are supposed to look up to the royal family? I don't think so. The queen is so bleedin' rich and yet she still needs to play dirty.

Many ordinary people of this country ,work damned hard and they have no choice but to pay their FULL tax, often with nothing left to "invest" anywhere.

Shame on her.