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use our grey power to force real affordable, safe houses to be built whoch won't kill our planet but actually save it!!

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peaches50 Fri 24-Nov-17 18:59:30

www.rtpi.org.uk/media/2262469/debate_30_mar_2017_janice_morphet_article.pdf

There's a quiet revolution going ahead with councils across the country quietly 'taking back control' from developers and finally using their powers to dictate house building in their areas, and who will get them. Instead of lining developers'shareholders' pockets, IF land owned by the church, the government, NHS, 'land bankers' etc is counted and made available, by coercion and COP if not willingly offered we could have a major revolution. Have a look at www.zedfactory.com/ who build green homes - no energy bills and enough energy to run an electric car! It's our children's and grandchildren's future and we are one world. So let's force change with petitions, scouting out abandoned homes and boarded up plots - and report them to our councils to do something about it. Who's with me? a petition?..... No one should be making a choice about 'eating or heating' it's criminal - and btw we'd need 11 nuclear power stations to provide the energy for the electric vehicles by 2040.. that's going to happen isnt it?!

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:17:40

www.zoopla.co.uk/property/3-marigold-avenue/gateshead/ne10-0dp/28870330#tab-street

They don't look too bad to me. Perhaps it's because they are in Gateshead.
Similar places in London look just the same but people there like them.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 16:23:28

The flats on the main photo are what dominates the development and were/are impossible to sell. most owned by housing associations these days. The houses in the picture look quite nice in the photo (presumably when new). I haven't been in one or even seen one as they weren't finished when I last visited. I know they only built a dozen or so of the intended houses as they just couldn't sell them.

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 16:26:20

I think that example was from several years ago durhamjen. I pass the estate regularly and they look a complete mess from the main road. Horrible metal walkways like prisons.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:33:18

www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/5-marigold-avenue/gateshead/ne10-0dp/34009103

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:36:48

2014. What matters is whether people look after them or not. Thay all appear to be student size flats to me.
You can't blame the builder for the condition people keep them in.

The walkways are because they are flats. How do you expect people to get in them?

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 16:40:07

Have you been in one durhamjen? I have. 15.32

16.32 you say you haven't been in one, but you pass them?

gillybob Wed 24-Jan-18 17:05:43

I said I haven't been in one of the houses !

I have been in the flats a few times. Once when they were first launched and again after the first few people moved in when they ran promotions and open days.

I pass them regularly and they look a bit of a mess.

varian Wed 24-Jan-18 20:00:39

The ideal home would be peffect to live in and also look good and enhance its setting. If you had to choose which would matter most?

durhamjen Wed 24-Jan-18 22:28:24

How much would it cost, varian?
The thing about the timber frame houses in Gateshead is that they are cheap to buy, and quick to put up.

durhamjen Thu 25-Jan-18 16:56:15

Well done, Wales. A good start to more social housing.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/wales-right-to-buy-formally-abolished/

varian Thu 25-Jan-18 17:04:51

Timber frame is generally cheaper and certainly much quicker to build. You can go further and used prefabricated panels which enable a house to be completed in a matter of days.

Most new houses in Scotland and many European countries have been timber framed for a long time but timber frame construction has never been as popular in England.

I'd like to tell you that locally sourced materials will always be cheaper, but sadly that is not the case. I know of one small housing development where slate and hard landscaping materials were imported from China.

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 12:58:48

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-homelessness-england-crisis-8000-buy-a8181871.html

Good for the homeless and rough sleepers.

POGS Sun 28-Jan-18 13:16:37

It doesn't matter what type of housing is being discussed if local people petition against it. Not in My Back Garden.

Some posters on GN have said that they have petitioned as such and yet call for more housing to be built confused

Planning is a bugger of a job and I suppose we must learn to accept that whilst we like to keep things as they are in our communities and life it cannot continue.

I hope this works out well:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38486907

" England's first garden villages have been proposed for 14 sites spread across the country from Cornwall to Cumbria, the government has announced.

Ministers have lent their support to 14 planned developments which will each deliver between 1,500 and 10,000 properties and establish new villages.

The new garden villages could provide 48,000 homes, the government says.

Larger garden towns in Buckinghamshire, Somerset and the Essex-Hertfordshire border were also approved.

Proposals include building a 1,000-home garden village on the site of a former airfield in Deenethorpe, Northamptonshire, and a garden town on green belt land on the Essex-Hertfordshire border.

The developments will be distinct new places, with their own community facilities, rather than extensions to existing urban areas, the government said."

The 14 new garden villages will be in:

Long Marston in Stratford-upon-Avon
Oxfordshire Cotswolds, West Oxfordshire
Deenethorpe in Northamptonshire
Culm in Devon
Welborne in Hampshire
West Carclaze in Cornwall
Dunton Hills in Essex
Spitalgate Heath in Lincolnshire
Halsnead in Merseyside
Longcross in Surrey
Bailrigg in Lancaster
Infinity Garden Village in Derbyshire
St Cuthberts in Cumbria
Handforth in Cheshire
The three new garden towns will be in:

Buckinghamshire (Aylesbury area)
Somerset (Taunton area)
Essex-Hertfordshire border (Harlow and Gilston)

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 13:37:14

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_Village,_Kingston_upon_Hull#History_and_description

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 13:44:12

"As a result of the report, Joseph Rowntree's conviction that it must be possible to provide better housing for people on low incomes led him to acquire 150 acres of land near the village of Earswick, two and a half miles to the north of the centre of York. The planner Raymond Unwin and the architect Barry Parker were commissioned to produce an overall plan for a new 'garden' village and the detailed designs for its first houses. They also designed the garden cities of Letchworth and Welwyn Garden City.

The building of New Earswick created a balanced village community where rents were kept low, but still represented a modest commercial return on the capital invested. Houses were open to any working people, not just Rowntree employees. The village was to be a demonstration of good practice."

A Garden village on the outskirts of York.
Talk about rewriting history.

durhamjen Sun 28-Jan-18 23:24:10

This is what Bournemouth has been doing to stop rough sleepers lying on their benches.

durhamjen Thu 01-Feb-18 18:43:32

This is absolutely appalling. Surely our grey power could be used to stop this.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/report-reveals-reality-of-renting-in-one-council-area/

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Sounds excellent, paddyann. I have noticed that Sadiq Khan is doing a lot in London, too, and Andy Burnham in Manchester.
Perhaps that is the best way, to not rely on the government. Unfortunately, most places in England have to rely on what the government gives them back from our council taxes.

durhamjen Thu 01-Feb-18 19:15:01

www.24housing.co.uk/opinion/cambridgeshire-and-peterborough-a-unique-challenge-and-opportunity/

All fifteen housing associations in Cambridgeshire and Peterborough are getting together to build as many houses as they can. A few years ago there was talk of a new newtown between Cambridge and Peterborough. Anyone know what happened to that?

durhamjen Mon 05-Feb-18 12:25:42

Well done Sadiq Khan.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/landmark-move-to-offer-londoners-first-dibs-on-the-capitals-new-homes/

Maranta Mon 05-Feb-18 13:29:51

durhamjen see www.northstowe.com/

durhamjen Mon 05-Feb-18 14:19:59

Thnks, Maranta. That must be what my granddaughter meant when she said about the new railway station north of Cambridge.
She lives in Ely and goes to school in Cambridge.

We lived in Peterborough for ten years from 1975. That was similarly enlarged, but the newtown areas were built around the old city, so it didn't feel like you were in the middle of fields, unlike when we lived in Cramlington in the 60s.