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Scotland -leased to the Scots

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Friday Mon 11-Dec-17 15:20:57

I’m wondering what the majority reaction would be if this was rewritten as a feminist piece of writing and instead of Scotland it was women who were under the thumb as it were hmm

Peep Mon 11-Dec-17 14:39:57

Not an opinion, just a thought...it has taken me 60 years to realise why I moan such a lot and feel aggrieved by the slightest thing despite living all my life in this 'wonderful haven' of Oxfordshire in the South! My paternal grandfather (a very lazy man) was Scottish and the quarter part of me that is Scottish must be my head. I was always proud of my Scottish heritage but it is very tested these days.
How many other countries cities or towns are so close to their capital city, most seem to be much further away.

Elegran Mon 11-Dec-17 13:52:06

Glad to hear that it is not your own writing, Paddyann as it puts the author into a very bad light for his/her ignorance and prejudice. I know many people who voted yes at the Scottish Independence referendum, but they didn't do it from such a sense of spite.

I was born one of those English "colonists" before emigrating to the country I would choose to end my days in, and I would hate to think while I am eating my meet-up Christmas lunch on Wednesday with my friends that I am surrounded by such hatred.

Come to think of it, England has been thoroughly colonised too, by Scots moving in the opposite direction and taking over banking, medicine, engineering, schoolmastering, providing Prime Ministers, etc etc etc.

gillybob Mon 11-Dec-17 13:13:55

OFG sake paddyann this reminds me of a similar "speech" I heard at the time just before the Scottish referendum in which the result was to stay. (warts n' all).

Imagine what it feels like to live in the North of England? Where we are largely ignored by Westminster and don't have anyone to shout loud enough for us. We are basically forbidden to have an English identity, or we are deemed racist Our children have to pay full tuition fees, we pay full prescription costs etc. and don't have the benefit of the Barnett formula.

Are the Scottish really not so hard done by? If they really hate the rest of the UK as much as your post suggests why did they vote remain?

I love Scotland and living in the North East I spend more time there than I do in the South of my own country.... England. Please don't try and create divisions where there are none.

paddyann Mon 11-Dec-17 11:43:54

this is not MY piece of writing ,please give opinions.

By The Grouse Beater - Scotland

Imposing an unequal Treaty on a neighbour nation in which that nation will always be overpowered by the parliamentary votes and self-serving agenda of the dominant nation is normally described as governing a colony.

In Scotland’s case, Scotland is leased to the Scots.

The majority of key powers are retained by the UK Parliament which in the main serves England first, colonies second, usually serving them badly. All Scotland’s wealth goes south, a tiny portion sent back in case we starve, in which case we’d be no use to our colonial masters at all. The tragic political dog’s dinner that is Northern Ireland is a case in point, Gibraltar another. Scotland gets short shrift but a bit more attention because it’s joined onto England and shouts a lot. Wales is too close to London to be a threat.

Foreign policy, armaments, avoiding wars, banking, trade deals and treaties, tariffs, broadcasting and cable provision, membership of the United Nations are only a few of the important powers not given to Scotland. By any yardstick that makes us a colony.

The only concessions England made under the Act of Union – and how it must regret it – was taking on all the United Kingdom’s debt in the event of a split. That was the boulder chained to its ankle in return for controlling all financial powers. To compensate they take all Scotland earns and steal Scotland’s oil.

Colonies are not for consulting