More Brexit lunacy

I want to keep an EU passport as I want to be able to freely travel in Europe to visit friends and family in EU countries. I don’t want to buy a visa. I want to get reciprocal health care if I fall ill when in the EU. I am fortunate to have one long dead Irish grandfather so can get an Irish passport , there has been a huge increase in numbers applying for Irish passports there’s a large backlog. I don’t hate Britain, what a ridiculous thing to say. I do hate the direction this incompetent government is taking us on the back of 17 million votes out of a population of some 60 million,

I think that the new colour is (dare I say it) a French Navy Blue rather than the traditional True Navy Blue. Perhaps they should have gone for Royal Blue

It certainly does

ninny
What's the saying: Travel broadens the mind

cold I think the biometrics make it more than a cardboard covered booklet. If it was a simple thing to produce, it would be a simple thing to fake

According to the Home Office guy I saw interviewed yesterday the biometrics are put on separately. This £490 million contract is just for the design and basic print of the blank passports. The printing may not be done in the UK.

Yes I know the end of the transition period is December 2020, leave date March 2019 just to clarify. What I find silly and sad Durhamjen your passport ran out in 2003 and you have not travelled out of the UK to visit the other EU countries perhaps you might have a different opinion if you had instead of relying on google.

One line on the cover removed, and a paragraph inside.
Strangely enough, your passport has always been the property of her majesty's government, not faceless EU bureaucrats.

The colour is of minor importance, but we'll need to have different wording on the passport when we actually leave i.e. reference to EU will need to be removed.

As someone already said, we will be lucky to have the money to travel and doubtful we could afford the health insurance post Brexit

Thank you Maggie. And yes, I know many Brexiters do travel- and amazingly enough, many are living all over the EU, in Spain, France mainly - doing exactly what they complain foreigners do in the UK (large % not speaking the local language, or just enough to order from a menu- having their own schools, Churches, shops and deliveries from UK- and many living in 'ghettos', and come back to use the NHS.

I don't care which colour my passport is (my passports are in fact) - I do care that the populist Press, the GVT and Brexiters are making a huge thing about 'having our passports back from the EU Burgundy tyranny' - when it is nothing of the sort. Just looked at m old one, it is so dark blue it is black for all intents and purposes. And I really do not give a monkey's.

From the analysis of the 2011 Census, we know that only 17% of residents of England and Wales did not hold a passport. The figures seem to include residents of all ages, including children, so if you want me to venture a guess I'd say not so many (does that count as a guess? ). Are you trying to say that Brexiters never leave the country? If you are, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. And I'm a remainer, so no axe to grind.

I don't really care what colour my passport is, and find this all a bit of a non-story. Though my old one was most definitely blue, and a long way off EU blue - I still have it, it's got some very interesting stamps in.

"Of the 56.1 million usually resident population of England and Wales in 2011, 76 per cent (42.5million) held a UK passport, 7.4 per cent (4.2 million) held a foreign passport only (of which 372,000 were Irish passports). There were 17 per cent (9.5 million) who stated they did not hold a passport.”

So the fact that Brexiteers see it as symbolic of freedom from the tyranny of the EU is not fake news, as we never had to have a burgundy one anyway?

Who was in power when the burgundy one was 'imposed' on us?
Thatcher?

I'm surprised you are bothered about this thread, Baggs. Why not just leave it to the Remainers?

I think the change away from maroon is seen as symbolic. Seems the Remain side is the one making a fuss about it now with their fake news about extra cost.

Or even owned up to it.
I own up to having a burgundy one but it ran out in 2003, and I haven't had one since.
There's a dilemma.
Should I get a new one now just in case I ever have to leave the country, or should I just wait and then have to have a blue one and forever be thought of as a dreaded Brexiteer?

A repeat- as no-one ventured a guess.

I do wonder how many of the Brexiters who complained bitterly about EU imposed Burgundy passports (fake news, 100%) - have never had one, and have no intention of getting the blue one or ever venturing abroad ?!?

twitter.com/D_Raval/status/944303351705079809/photo/1

Tweets about the colour of your passports.

The point is that the populist Press, and the Brexit camp, have been making ahuge fuss about having our blue passports back. And the old passports were never blue, or so dark they were almost black- and mainly that the EU never ever imposed the Burgundy colour on us - at all, in any way, shape or form - so how can it signifiy a 'freedom from the tiranny of the EU Burgundy' - plain daft, and plain stirring.

How silly, ninny.
We don't leave in 2020. We'll still be negotiating then. And why would the EU suddenly stop us using their passports?
It's not physically possible to change all passports before then. If that's not the politics of fear, I don't know what is.

I don't hate Britain; I am just laughing at the mess that Brexit has got us into.
I despair of people who think like you.

Don't you know it's much easier to change a system from the inside.
I don't mind if those who think Britain is better than the EU having to go to the end of the queue. I just resent the fact that they have to take the rest of us with them.

I can't see the EU letting us use our European Community Passports after December 2020 whether they have run out or not.
Of course we need new British passports and I am in favour of Blue. Let's hope a British company gets to produce them. As for being stuck in the past I think its the Remainers who are hanging on to a sinking EU ship why on earth would you still want an EU passport when we leave. I feel some of the Remainers posting hate Britain and all that Britain stands for, let me ask you a question why are you still living here then, although I have noticed a few of the Remainer posters do not live here.

Yes, fake news to get Remainers up in arms....as if that was necessary!
My Burgundy passport was renewed last year so may never have a blue one, hardly something to worry about, but as we are leaving the EU soon, we may as well have a different colour, why not?

There is no extra cost in updating UK passports. The contract they are currently on runs out and when they are updated the covers will be changed to blue (incidentally, I always thought my old passports were black!). The cost of renewing the contract for their production is £490mill whatever colour the cover is. The suggestion that the colour change is going add an extra half million pounds is fake news.

I'm not sure what money you think would be saved Jen, unless you think the UK should stop issuing passports? There's always going to be a cost of producing them whatever the colour!
If people shouldn't care about the colour of the passport, doesn't that mean both Brexiteers and Remainers are equally small-minded?

What is astonishing is the idea that some small minded people believe national identity is created by the colour of the passport. Well if it makes them happy...

And thoroughly piss off millions of people, too, Primrose. Particularly those I mentioned in my previous tweet.