More Brexit lunacy

Oh dear dj. It's not going to get much mainstream attention without a better name. Can't members be part of any separate movement? Such as Momentum, Trade unions, church groups, etc? Or is the problem because it's a cross-party group?

They can't give it a proper name, though, can they mostlyharmless, as Labour members can't be a member of any other party.

ww About time there was a cross-party anti-Brexit group.
But it needs a snappier title than Grassroots Coordinating Group please Chuka.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/01/groups-opposed-to-hard-brexit-join-forces-under-chuka-umunna

Umunna has announced a new organisation composing a coalition of pro-EU supporters working hard against Brexit

Link, petra, so we know who you are howling with laughter with?

I read this today and it made me howl with laughter.
Pythagoras' Theorum.... 24 words.
The Lord's Prayer....66 words.
Archimedes Principal....67 words.
The 10 Commandments....179 words.
US Decleration of Independence.... 1,300 words
eu regs on the sale of cabbages.... 26,900,11 words

As I understand it, Theresa May does know. Time and time again again she has refused to say, when asked directly, that she would not still vote Remain.

She has put herself in an impossible position by not following her conscience and instead prioritising the survival of the Tory party.

I am sure she is a Christian and feels very uncomfortable about betraying the truth, which is why she always looks so uncomfortable and entirely unconvincing when she recites the stale old Brexit mantras.

May should know, though, and she still wouldn't say if she's changed her mind when asked, twice.

The whole EU issue is very complicated, DJ. I realised that from the outset, as did many, if not, most Remainers. I don't blame those who still don't know, I blame those who have still not woken up to the disastrous implications of Brexit.

I rather liked this bit from Parris's article

With a complicit prime minister and a supine cabinet trailing in its wake, Europhobia — this mutant gene in the Conservative body politic now spreading its cancer through the whole government — is moving from idiocy to dishonesty"

The whole article was free to read for a while but is now behind the paywall.

Richard Murphy has posted extracts (and there are loads on twitter)

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018/02/03/the-tories-have-ceased-to-seek-for-the-sane-majority-even-in-their-own-paryt/

I find it a bit sad that 7% still don't know, varian.
Mind, that probably includes May.

I told you the tories provide enough light relief.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-charge-regulating-porn-apps-11954803

Another link showing 8% of Leave voters have changed their minds as opposed to only 4% of Remain voters so "the will of the people" is now to REMAIN in the EU.

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I did look at it, and saw the relevance. I even listened to it while typing something else.

Looking at a link is not compulsory.

I don't need any more light relief from it. The Tory party provides enough.

Some light relief from Brexit etc, although perhaps not Trump

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqMsjUD6s_8&list=RDEqMsjUD6s_8

Excellent article by Parris in the Times.

I paraphrase

It is clear that the government doesn’t know what it is doing, can’t decide what to do and hasn’t the guts to say so.

It is creeping forward under a fog hoping not to be noticed desperately hoping that something will turn up.

The sane Tory backbenchers speak to us with what appears to be guns held to their heads being threatened by perhaps only 50 zealots, representing only a sixth of the party MPs .

Time to fight back!! (That’s my comment)

The cost per year of a hard Brexit will equate to the entire bill for education and policing.

I wish them well.

Well, yes Tegan but that image is a bit too graphic for a polite forum, hence the hand holding.?

And May then went and held trump's hand. That's more worrying.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/01/groups-opposed-to-hard-brexit-join-forces-under-chuka-umunna

This is good, though.

' b) that we will be able to survive without the EU holding our hand.' I didn't think they did 'hold our hand' lemon. Isn't the assumption of brexit voters that the EU totally screw us over every which way they can??

I f I had a pound for every time I want to bang my head against a wall reading/hearing that the PM is fulfilling 'the will of the people' [just mentioned on the news again] I'd be very rich by now.....