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The royal wedding.

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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 10:14:33

When the press report these deaths they should also disclose what was the cause of death . The woman claims they are vunerable, were they addicts drug/alcohol, mentally ill, did any take their own lives ? Lazy reporting.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 09:27:02

The man who died in the B & B the same will be carried out

There will have been a P M

Toxicology reports take quite time

There will be an inquest

My husband died in a car crash 40 years ago

Same happened then except there was no disclose of interested allowed then

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 09:21:14

Thank you Jen

durhamjen Sun 07-Jan-18 09:20:34

Sorry to hear about your daughter, Annie.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jan-18 09:11:35

My daughter died in November

P. M

Corner informed

We were given a temp death certificate so we could hold the funeral because all details of the P M not ready

Police have taken statements

Then Coroner requested the police take a statement from me

We have requested disclosure of interests before the inquest

Inquest will be held 6th February

NanKate Sun 07-Jan-18 07:03:26

We were in Windsor on Saturday, a regular place for us to visit, and we noticed a big increase in rough sleepers in the two main roads in the town. We have never noticed them being aggressive. We sort out loose change to give to two or three of them each time.

I do not know the answer to this sad problem but it is definitely getting worse.

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 23:14:34

A reporter asked a homeless man in Windsor about the council providing accommodation.
The man replied that yes, there had been a shelter - for four days over Christmas.

Sorry, the link doesn't work but I see that one I signed previously has resulted in success.

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 23:08:50

I am not sure why I am getting a lecture.

When someone is found dead there will be a post-mortem, possibly an inquest. If necessary, there will be a police investigation.
I have said that the problem of homelessness is far more complex than providing someone with accommodation.

I do not know why you are questioning me? Perhaps you could explain.

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 22:58:49

No police investigation.
It said that some of them were on drugs, but not all.
Your questions answered?

"Homelessness is a massive issue in Greater Manchester and the whole of the UK. It ruins lives, isolates people and they can become mentally or physically harmed. On average, people sleeping rough are 17 times more likely to be victims of violence. It is very difficult to put a figure on the number of people who are homeless. However, campaigners have revealed that over 3200 people are surviving without a home in Greater Manchester. This rates the region as having the highest rates of homelessness in the North West.

We want to raise awareness about this issue. If you sign this petition, not only does it show you care for people in need, it will help society take a huge step forward in challenging homelessness. If we receive over 100,000 signatures, parliament will have to debate it. "

There are more homeless people on Manchester's streets than have signed this petition on www.change.org

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 22:56:05

Perhaps you could read my post again
smile

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 22:55:35

I will listen out for more information on our local news.

The level of support required by some of her guests is beyond what she is able to give. said the landlady

Providing homes to get people off the streets is a solution to only part of the problems. I said

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 22:51:38

Perhaps you could read the article again, Jalima.

Jalima1108 Sat 06-Jan-18 17:26:38

Presumably there will be a police investigation into the deaths at the Gloucestershire B&B and why this occurred. As they were being housed in a B&B then they were not out on the streets in the cold - could it possibly be drug-related?

Providing homes to get people off the streets is a solution to only part of the problems.

Bridgeit Sat 06-Jan-18 17:12:23

Thank you Annibach

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 17:09:41

I agree Bridgeit

Bridgeit Sat 06-Jan-18 17:06:39

We cannot not be who we are,no matter who we are, even if we didn't have a Royal family in this country we would still have inequality, I don't have any answers for how that could ever be put right, but we do at least have a Royal family who love them or hate them ,they do try to do their bit . If we were to get rid of them all, we as individuals would still be who we are with the same circumstances , they do at least provide employment & bringing in tourists. I for one am glad I am who I am & not one of them! If each of us did our own little bit to help someone in our own areas perhaps that would be of more use than just being critical .

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 16:47:47

Some people stick with socialism other choose to move further left

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 16:40:15

But Harry cares for homeless ex-servicemen.

The number of homeless in the country is as great as the population of Newcastle, so I heard today.

Some people's socialism appears to have gone walkabout again.

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 16:29:33

A list would be asking for a gift , they would be attacked for this

pearl79 Sat 06-Jan-18 16:14:57

when 'ordinary' people marry they often have a 'list', to avoid the dreadful possibility of receiving seven toasters, whereas 'royals' just open up a museum to display their unused gifts.
why don't this modern couple write a list, perhaps starting with countrywide banquets for EVERYONE on the day and donations to charities genuinely dealing with the problems that beset many of our troubled society and sometimes lead to homelessness issues?

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 14:14:50

Many will switch on to watch a wedding not a party political broadcast and this would happen if the homeless were interviewed, politicians would leap on it.

The two people getting married are not responsible for the homeless.

Caledonai14 Sat 06-Jan-18 13:50:45

All kinds of private and public bodies will be falling over themselves to give gifts to the Royal couple. It'd be great if they announced that money should be gifted, instead, to local charities, say for example Food Banks, Forces Charities, Homeless Shelters.

When Prince Harry's dad married his late mum, one of the councils in my area considered giving them the gift of opening a much-needed specialist nursery, but voted instead for an expensive painting.

Perhaps the council responsible for Windsor could lead the way in showing that, like the Royal Family, they have moved with the times and turn this into a positive story showing the caring face of Britain.

And in the long gaps on TV on the day, why don't we ask the eight homeless people in Windsor to tell their stories (sound only to preserve their anonymity and dignity unless they wish otherwise) and broadcast them in the really boring bits when even the highly-paid commentators are struggling for something new to say about thousands spent on hats and flowers?

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 12:34:49

There has always been some form of social cleansing.

In Bromley , Kent a wall was built between council house estate and private houses .

Travellers are driven from sites because they do live as locals do.

whitewave Sat 06-Jan-18 10:34:57

There is no hysteria. I simply recognise that where there is poverty there is also crime and victims.

If you want to look at where these sort of government policies that cut welfare to the bone, look at America where in some cities poverty is at its worse and there is a murder every two hours and the poor die for lack of health care and welfare assistance. Is that the sort of society you want?

I prefer the Scandinavian model say for example Denmark where homelessness only represents something like 0.2% of the population and resultant crime is minimal.

I cannot see how social cleansing does anything but give out the message that these “beggars” who pray on innocent victims reflects so many policies in the past in various European countries, resulting in disaster.

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 10:21:07

Seems now all those begging on the streets are homeless and all homeless are victims. Was the homeless man who stole from victims of the Manchester terrorist attack a victim?

This hysteria defending all the begging on the streets is doing as much damage to the homeless as that man has done