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The royal wedding.

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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

lemongrove Sat 06-Jan-18 09:54:38

The answer ginny is no, but this is a huge public event and will generate even more tourism than normal.
I suspect it’s not the eight rough sleepers they are worried about but all the extra beggars that will make a beeline for Windsor that day.
Nothing can be done about that really, unless they are causing an obstruction or aggressively begging.
Actually if I was a tourist I would be more worried about the high number of pickpockets likely to be buzzing around.

Anniebach Sat 06-Jan-18 09:51:04

Would any other wedding draw the same number of people?

ginny Sat 06-Jan-18 09:28:21

The question I would ask is ‘ would they move them for any other wedding ?’

durhamjen Sat 06-Jan-18 09:22:11

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/eight-people-found-dead-past-1013389

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 21:27:37

www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2018/jan/05/removing-rough-sleepers-windsor-homelessness-problem

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 21:23:50

Some good responses here about the homeless in Windsor.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/05/homeless-deserve-a-royal-wedding-invite

Someone wonders how many of them are ex-military.

Once again May has proved that she follows rather than leads.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 19:27:12

What personal remark would that be lemon?

lemongrove Fri 05-Jan-18 19:18:24

Such a shame you have to constantly indulge in personal remarks whitewave
Stick to the subject in hand.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 18:56:35

I’m surprised that HMRC aren’t following these people up if the living is so good.

Are they the undeserving poor in your world lemon

lemongrove Fri 05-Jan-18 18:44:40

Windsor have done a lot to reduce peoples need to sleep rough, it was 35 until a couple of years ago and it now stands at 8, so the Council there have worked at it.
Beggars go to where there is money and tourists who will hand it over.
All charities who help the homeless say please give money to us to help them, not give money in the street.
There are plenty of beggars who are not on their uppers but make a good living out of it.

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 18:41:57

newsthump.com/2018/01/05/streets-of-windsor-to-be-clogged-by-notorious-family-demanding-free-hand-outs/

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 13:14:41

Another heartening story about someone helping the homeless.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/01/02/the-man-who-wakes-up-at-4am-every-day-to-feed-the-homeless

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 13:00:03

May tells fibs.

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/01/04/may-s-hypocrisy-over-windsor-homeless-comments

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 12:18:39

A heartwarming story about builders helping a homeless woman. A 71 year old pensioner.

www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/builders-homeless-woman-hotel-bristol-uk/

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 11:24:18

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-windsor-homeless-people-royal-wedding-tory-council-leader-simon-dudley-berkshire-meghan-a8142341.html

durhamjen Fri 05-Jan-18 10:44:08

www.24housing.co.uk/news/charities-condemn-call-to-clear-homeless-ahead-of-royal-wedding/

The councillor who said it is on the board of the Homes and Community Agency.
Couldn't make it up.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 09:30:42

All characterised by poverty.

Anniebach Fri 05-Jan-18 09:15:03

There is a difference between the homeless and those who have accomodation yet beg.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 08:57:36

Your last post sounds to me lemon very like a Victorian, distinguishing between deserving and undeserving poor?

lemongrove Fri 05-Jan-18 08:22:16

Sorry, can’t wade through the whole thread , just to say that Windsor has about eight rough sleepers ( genuinely homeless) the rest are beggars.
My own (tourist) city is full of beggars and has been to my certain knowledge for over 30 years.Reading anything to do with history shows in fact it has been since medieval times.
Give money to homeless charitues and not street beggars.

Nelliemoser Fri 05-Jan-18 08:02:19

Make the government build more affordable property and not allow so many large luxury properties. get the proportions right. Loosing homes to family break up is a big problem.
There are also a proportion of those homeless due to mental health and substance abuse whose lives have been so chaotic due to childhood neglect and abuse etc who are so emotionally damaged they are extremely hard to help.

whitewave Fri 05-Jan-18 07:56:06

I hope that at the very least Markel is against social cleansing.

Anniebach Fri 05-Jan-18 04:42:22

Their work load last year was low,

Charles carried out highest number of duties

Anne second

Queenie third

William and Harry lower than queenie

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 05-Jan-18 00:15:17

Now I am no Royalist, but why do people feel the need to run down William and Harry (and Kate) when they are clearly trying to change the way the Royals act in the 21st century?

Diana regularly visited Centrepoint unannounced in London to spend time with young homeless people. Both Harry and William went on visits with their mother to hostels too. William took over as the Patron of the charity in 2005 and makes private as well as public visits. It was the first charity with which he chose to get involved.

When Harry was in the army I doubt he was ever in any real danger, but every serviceman I've heard talking about him has had nothing but good things to say about him. He's very involved with service personnel past and present. We've seen him trekking to the South Pole with them and he set up the Invictus Games. Like his mother, he's also involved with Aids work. The Cambridges and Harry set up the Royal Foundation in 2009 as the umbrella organisation for all of the good causes with which they are involved - and there's a lot. From what I can tell both brothers are far more involved with the public than any other generation of Royal. Diana wanted her sons to have a broader range of experiences than other young Royals and I think they're doing a great job of honouring her memory.

Yes, they were born into a world of privilege, but it doesn't look like they are taking it for granted. Instead they seem to be trying to use their situation to make a difference. Give them a break.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 04-Jan-18 23:35:57

No, as paddyann said this country is not overcrowded. It's one of those myths that has been said so often that people think it is fact. Take a look at this table from the BBC in November.