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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

paddyann Thu 04-Jan-18 22:36:18

this country is NOT overcrowded

durhamjen Thu 04-Jan-18 22:29:51

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/windsor-homeless-people-royal-wedding_uk_5a4e3ce5e4b06d1621bd8fc1?utm_hp_ref=uk-news

durhamjen Thu 04-Jan-18 22:17:54

How are we due to expand further?

Birene Thu 04-Jan-18 21:51:53

quizqueen I couldn't agree more. The reason for so many of our problems stems from there being just far too many people crammed on to our tiny island. And we are due to expand further! You couldn't make it up! This is the 'elephant in the room' when discussing our country's problems. Dare to mention it and you are likely to be branded 'racist'. Unbelievable.

Birene Thu 04-Jan-18 21:44:51

I quite agree vampire queen.

vampirequeen Thu 04-Jan-18 21:38:42

Offer them food. If they say no then that's their problem. We had a middle aged man living behind our dustbins for a few days. It was a sheltered spot and the dustbins offered a bit of shelter. Also they hid him. We gave him some food and drink ....as did another neighbour. His story was one that could happen to a lot of people. His marriage broke up and he left the family home so his ex and the children had somewhere to live. He sofa surfed for a while but couldn't do that forever. Finally he ended up on the streets. Then he went into even more of a downward spiral as he fell into drink and drugs to mask the pain of his life. This and being homeless also led to mental health problems. He never once asked for money and was always polite. He told me it was nice to be treated as a human being and not to be invisible. Sadly, after a few days, a miserable old bat less understanding neighbour saw him an called the police. She told the most terrible lies about him saying that he was leaving needles lying about and was a danger to children playing. Children never play behind our houses because she won't let them. The police officer was very sympathetic but said that he had to move him because the neighbour had complained. He was going to take him to a local country park where he would be hidden and DH told him how to make a sort of tent using low tree branches and some polythene. Just because some people pretend to be homeless in order to con people doesn't mean we can ignore the needs of those who are truly homeless.

Bridgeit Thu 04-Jan-18 21:35:23

Also Birene, it is interesting to read your comment & guess it's going to be true, if that's how a person lives ( for what ever reason) then they are going to go where the better opportunity is.

Christinefrance Thu 04-Jan-18 21:25:59

Excellent idea VQ you should write and suggest it.

Birene Thu 04-Jan-18 21:23:09

I heard a series of short radio interviews with the residents of Windsor and apparently the influx of many beggars/ rough sleepers is very recent. In the past couple of months or so the streets have seen more and more appearing. Ever since, in fact, the announcement of the wedding there. Could there be some political force behind this or am I being way too suspicious?. It's strange that the numbers have increased though and the begging, according to a couple of interviews is becoming extremely aggressive and intimidating, with one elderly man having been practically marched to a cash machine to withdraw money for the beggar.
Homelessness is shocking, particularly when it involves ex-forces and the mentally sick. But don't forget many of those begging are getting a pretty penny and may not be homeless at all.

Bridgeit Thu 04-Jan-18 21:23:06

SorryVQ

Bridgeit Thu 04-Jan-18 21:22:42

VP what a brilliant idea, I suppose it would be possible to approach the Windsor council & suggest it

vampirequeen Thu 04-Jan-18 21:19:18

If the council opened a reception room and laid on food and drink for the day for the homeless they'd go there rather than stay on the streets as food, drink and a comfortable chair would be far more appealing than getting squashed on crowded streets. Whatever their reason for being there, homeless people are still people and deserve to be treated with respect not swept away like rubbish.

BRedhead59 Thu 04-Jan-18 19:53:25

Let's find out why they are homeless and try to help wedding or no wedding

Bridgeit Thu 04-Jan-18 19:45:20

Thank you Chritinefrance, I love that saying 'walk a mile in my shoes, before you criticise & abuse' I dislike the inequality in life as much as anyone else but none of us get to choose who we are, at least some who are technically well off do try to do their bit,& I think it only right that that should be acknowledge. They cant help being who they are,which is a least compassionate . There are the good & there are the not so good in all walks of life ! So I would say to all those critics, you go out on the streets & help someone worse off , or offer them a home , I wonder how many of us would.

ElroodFan Thu 04-Jan-18 19:25:54

Not a comment on the Windsor problem , but when I heard about the wedding I thought omg I can't go through another one.

Anniebach Thu 04-Jan-18 19:20:48

Divorcees are allowed to marry in church , nothing to do with the fact it is a wedding of a Windsor. Was Megan at fault in her divorce ? If her husband had divorced for adultery different matter but was the divorce not by mutual agreement ?

whitewave Thu 04-Jan-18 19:20:02

Are we paying?

sarahellenwhitney Thu 04-Jan-18 19:10:49

So why is this particular wedding to take place in all its glory at St Georges Chapel ?
The bride to be is a divorced woman. How many brides, a member of my own family included, have been denied a church wedding let alone a service carried out by an archbishop due to the sanctimonious attitude of the church that divorced persons are less virtuous than a non married person. Why should this commoner divorcee , marrying a royal, be seen as any different.?

Christinefrance Thu 04-Jan-18 18:59:12

Well said Bridgeit on your posts, another councillor trying to score points.

W11girl Thu 04-Jan-18 18:56:27

Nothing strange about the homeless setting up home in tourist spots..its where they stand a better chance of getting some money. How dare that Councillor think he can just "throw human beings away"....even Theresa May disagrees with him...silly silly man...he has no idea of what really goes on outside of his own "bubble"!

Ilovecheese Thu 04-Jan-18 18:55:19

I was just trying to say that there is not much need to worry.
As long as there are other people around children should be fine. If people are begging they will be where other people are around.

whitewave Thu 04-Jan-18 18:54:19

There are all sorts of addictions and you do not have to be homeless to be addicted.

Anniebach Thu 04-Jan-18 18:50:18

But Windsor isn't a city

The population of Windsor is 32,000

Population of Manchester City 2.5 million

Ilovecheese Thu 04-Jan-18 18:45:23

Grandmama What a lovely idea.

Anniebach in a big city like Manchester it is just something we have to get used to. But also in a big city there are plenty of people around, so children should not be at risk.

NotTooOld Thu 04-Jan-18 18:43:02

That's a good idea, Grandmama, and it could be inside the castle. Let's nominate a royal to be Head Chef. How about Camilla?