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The royal wedding.

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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:58:26

Whereas abs obsession does her all the favours she needs. I’m bloody fed up with being called a liar - what’s to obsess about? Of course you’d accept it wouldn’t you? Especially if it came from me ? Ha bloody ha - more hypocrisy

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:55:56

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Bridgeit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:55:05

I guess the wedding is off then , at least on here!!!!!!!'??

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:55:00

"Ffs day you know very well the point I was making - you obviously found abs posts completely acceptable. Jolly good."

Wrong again. You keep barking up the wrong tree. Maryeliza. I have not being following your obsessive line against ab having joined this thread at the end and being more concerned about the nasty Meghan Markle remarks.

Your dog-with-a-bone approach to discussion does you no favours.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:53:57

It was eazy who said she found ffs offensive and told me to stop saying it. Oh no wait a minute, I must be lying again. Your post day is so full of non sequiturs it’s almost amusing.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jan-18 18:53:31

I don't do playgrounds and I have never said you lied maryeliza, I repeat all I have said is the details were not given in the news headlines and they were not, why would they read all that then repeat it in the main news ? Think about it.

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:52:04

I really don't understand that post, Day6, but don't explain, as I don't think I want to.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:49:39

Ffs - ab WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED YET AGAIN IS NOT TRUE. I’m NOT lying so by definition you must be and are being either obtuse, obdurate or provocative. I think those whose opinion I respect on here will know who to believe and your playground mates will back you whatever you say.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:47:27

"I think I have probably sworn three or four times all the time I have been on Gransnet, Day6."

Likewise DJ, yet you are quick to condemn it in others, especially those who hold different political views from yours. I was chastised by you. Just making the point. Double standards ain't nice

As for smelling salts maryeliza, do get a grip. We are grown, worldly wise women and have raised children in a world where swearing is (unfortunately) fairly commonplace. You are suggesting bad language is the preserve of the left (?)and that right wingers will be shocked by it. Many don't like to hear bad language, whatever their political leaning, but you painted a picture of right wingers as being prudishly narrow minded.

Such sweeping generalisations like yours might conversely imply that people see left wingers like you as having extreme views which espouse violence or death towards those who disagree with you - as seen in Manchester not many months ago. We wouldn't want that now, would we?

Caricatures are not helpful. I suspect you agree.

Bridgeit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:46:22

I have been shocked to find in the work place that many young woman have such ignorant & bigoted opinions regarding this subject.I do find it unbelievable that it's still an issue in today's society.( or perhaps they try to use it as an excuse to justify their own shortcomings & jealousises

Anniebach Sun 14-Jan-18 18:44:49

Maryeliza, please let it drop, if I am bored other posters must be very bored, all I said was the details were not given in the opening headlines, I was correct, end of .

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 18:40:01

Like that would be UKIP wouldn’t it?

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:37:49

I agree, Wilma. All the 25 year olds I know would never dream of thinking along those lines, let alone think it's acceptable to say so on the internet.

But when you join a politicl party, you don't normally do so on your own, so she must know others who think like her.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:31:19

mcem yes, that's why I posted the image of the texts.

I'll be honest and say I don't understand how a young British woman in this day and age comes to be thinking those thoughts. The only way I can rationalise it is to think she must have been brought up in a household with the same beliefs. I can rationalise how young men become racist, but not women. Of course, my rationalisation is just that, my rationalisation, so I would like know more.

lemongrove Sun 14-Jan-18 18:30:30

Have only just come on here ( wondered what could still be being said about the Windsor situation.)

The remarks by Bolton’s partner were horrible, and you have said all I would have done in your posts Day6

I agree that Maryeliza’s post was in the usual vein, angry and way OTT.

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:30:15

Patronage and coterie, eh?
I must have gone up in the world for that to have happened on Gransnet.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:29:50

Ffs day you know very well the point I was making - you obviously found abs posts completely acceptable. Jolly good

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:28:13

I was “distracted’ by ab posting false information over and over again, implying I was a liar and her criticising me for defending myself. And no right winger came on to say anything until eazy called me out for using ffs. I’m sorry that you may see this as a distraction - I think abs posts were a bloody disgrac3 - is what she posted acceptable? No of course it wasn’t but no right winger will say so.

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 18:28:06

Blaming something other than the filth spewed by groups like Ukip is simply falling into their hands.

UKIP is unequivocally foul there are no other explanations.

mcem Sun 14-Jan-18 18:22:36

Day6. Your post of 18.06 does go a long way to addressing that issue. It's just a pity that no-one made that point earlier.

Posters were distracted by the 'what was actually said?' discussion I think.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:20:56

"In the case of Henry Bolton, even if you ignore him deciding to leave his wife, I do believe you can judge a man by the company he keeps."

I agree WilmaKnickersfit. He is definitely guilty by association and if his ex wife is grinning wildly now at his downfall, very few could blame her.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:15:08

Maryeliza54 stop trying to wriggle out of your nasty comment.

You wrote - your words - "Amazing isn’t it the number of right wingers on here NOT complaing about the great leader’s girlfriend’s texts."

It is a typically disparaging remark from you insinuating that GN right wingers are silent because they think in the same vein. It is a disgusting suggestion to compare moderate right wingers to UKIP members. There is a world of difference whether you recognise it or not.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:12:01

Jo Marney's texts are shown on the left. Actually I'm not sure if I do believe all ukippers agree with her. Many will, but I suspect many others are true to UKIP's declared beliefs as shown on its website -

WHAT WE BELIEVE IN

We believe in the right of the people of the UK to govern ourselves, rather than be governed by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels (and, increasingly, in London and even your local town hall).

We believe in the minimum necessary government which defends individual freedom, supports those in real need, takes as little of our money as possible and doesn’t interfere in our lives.

We believe in democracy devolved to the people, through national and local referendums on key issues, so that laws are made by the people’s will, not the fads of the political class.

This group will just want a stable and honourable leadership, something that appears to be very elusive. In the case of Henry Bolton, even if you ignore him deciding to leave his wife, I do believe you can judge a man by the company he keeps. You do not get any closer to a man than the woman he lives with and I think his position is untenable.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jan-18 18:11:30

Never, ever whitewave

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:06:07

What on earth is happening to this country?

That woman is a disgrace and a racist and there are no excuses for her, but I think the political correctness movement of the last 40 years or so has merely driven feelings which have never been extinguished, underground.

Being told HOW you must think is sinister - when you examine the notion - but one would hope most reasonable people would not judge others on race or skin colour, could work that one out for themselves with a bit of thinking, and not feel forced into that corner. Deep down inside they must harbour lots of hatred. Her views are obnoxious.